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Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by Johnny555 on Friday October 03, 2025 @07:59PM (#45469149)
I print so little these days that any inkjet printer is not cost effective due to the amount of ink it goes through to keep the heads unclogged, and I still have had to manually clean the clogged heads sometimes.

Now I have a cheap Brother laser printer for those few times I need to print something. It's over 5 years old, prints around a dozen or two pages a year and works fine every time I turn it on.

(Hopefully some day I won't need a printer at all, but sometimes it comes in handy, like when I needed to update my property tax records, my choices were either to go in to the office or mail them a signed paper form -- scanned or faxed forms were not permitted)

Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by busymom0 on Friday October 03, 2025 @08:15PM (#45469261)
Same here. I bought a brother laser printer probably 10 years ago and it's been working perfectly since then. Was able to buy a pack of 3 third party toners (is that what it's called?) from Amazon few years ago and it's still going.
Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by jamiek88 on Friday October 03, 2025 @08:30PM (#45469369)
Same! I had to print something at home for the first time in 4 years before recent travel and I had mine in the shed. Plugged it in, printed no problem. Those old brother lasers were the pinnacle of printer tech. Sadly even brother has been enshittified now.
Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by IshKebab on Saturday October 04, 2025 @03:25AM (#45471354)
I mean I bought an Inkjet printer 10 years ago and it worked all that time. I replaced the ink cartridges once.

I have had to replace it finally because it got an issue where it kept thinking the paper was jammed or empty (it wouldn't tell me which) even when it wasn't. But that isn't anything to do with inkjet Vs laser.

I did replace it with a Brother laser printer simply because it was very cheap (and I don't need colour).

Annoyingly the Brother app uses the old temporary AP WiFi pairing method which doesn't at all work on modern Android because it constantly detects no internet access and disconnects no matter what you do.

So instead I had to tediously enter my WiFi password using up and down arrows and a 30 character display. Like 01234567890abcd next 01234567890abcdefghij next 0123... Seriously tedious but it's lucky they had the option otherwise I'd have had to return it.

Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by myself248 on Saturday October 04, 2025 @08:44AM (#45472925)
I bought a Samsung color laser in 2010, and just had to replace the transfer belt and paper separation pad/roller for the first time.

That's a problem, actually, because lasting so long, the parts got scarce in the meantime. Scarce and expensive. It probably would've been more cost-effective to consider the belt a critical failure and replace it with new, but I just hate the notion of throwing this monstrous machine (it weighs like 70 lbs) in the trash for want of a 5-lb part.

That said, it should now be all set for another 10-15 years of service. It's still running the 2009-copyright firmware that was on it from the factory, and I will never let it "upgrade".

Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by Brajeshwar on Friday October 03, 2025 @10:42PM (#45470070)
I’m on the other side. My daughters print like crazy; stickers, custom doll costumes, new experiments, artworks, and then their school related stuffs. I go through the 500-pack A4 sheets in about a month or two, besides the sticker papers, photo papers.

I bought a Inkjet Brother Printer about 8+ years ago and I have refilled the ink-tank just once after the first installation. I think a full-tank last about 5 years. I’m about to add a Brother Laser Printer too.

Oh! I also print for the neighbors pretty regularly (I live in a large gated neighborhood). Their kids needs some good colorful print for school, I do it for them. I’m the guy who keeps unexpected things that comes in handy. I’m happy with that.

Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by donw on Saturday October 04, 2025 @12:04AM (#45470411)
I’m the same way. That’s a good guy to be.
Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by otherme123 on Saturday October 04, 2025 @03:01AM (#45471197)
> I’m about to add a Brother Laser Printer too.

Be careful. Brother is doing shaddy things this days, like lowering printing quality, or not printing, if a non-Brother toner is detected. E.g. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NzaRVEzYuz8 for a toner hack that shouln't be needed.

Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by Brajeshwar on Saturday October 04, 2025 @03:59AM (#45471556)
What! They were supposed to be the good ones and not join the others.
Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by finaard on Saturday October 04, 2025 @11:45AM (#45474153)
I can recommend Kyocera - my current one has been going strong for 15 years now. I had problems with paper transport about two years ago - but that's expected after that many prints, and was solved with a reasonably priced field maintenance kit.

As far as I know they're still not doing any nonsense to force you to use their toner - but even if they did I probably wouldn't care as the original toner is cheap enough that I just can't be arsed to figure out good compatible ones.

Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by axiolite on Sunday October 05, 2025 @02:40AM (#45479350)
Brother has clearly denied these claims:

"Brother printers do not intentionally degrade print quality based on whether a Brother Genuine or third-party ink/ toner cartridge is used."

https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/06/brother_firmware_upda...

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/03/brother-denies-using...

Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by leobg on Saturday October 04, 2025 @07:41AM (#45472596)
What model is that? Ink doesn’t dry and lasts for five years when you’re going through 500 pages a month. Sounds incredible.
Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by Brajeshwar on Saturday October 04, 2025 @08:13AM (#45472744)
"Brother DCP-T710W Inktank Refill System Printer with Wireless and Automatic Document Feeder" bought on Jul 15, 2019. My order history shows the Inks replacement bought in late 2023, so I must have likely replaced it in 2024. So, roughly 4-5 years-ish.

I think this is the one https://store.brother.ee/devices/laser/dcp/dcpt710w

Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by Brajeshwar on Saturday October 04, 2025 @09:33PM (#45478187)
Now that we are discussing this, I should add that I kept recommending this Printer to anyone who asked for Printers in the neighborhood. I know at least four other families in the neighborhood who got the exact same printer and are happy with it.

Suggestion: Keep your printer clean, and covered while not using.

Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by culi on Saturday October 04, 2025 @03:10AM (#45471257)
> I print so little these days that any inkjet printer is not cost effective due to the amount of ink it goes through to keep the heads unclogged

Few people seem to realize that ink is incredibly cheap. You just need to buy it third party. The most expensive part of an ink cartridge is the chips used to DRM them to lock you in

Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by raybb on Saturday October 04, 2025 @10:47AM (#45473680)
I feel lucky to live in SF where the library let's you print up to 20 pages per day for free. I really wonder how many people don't buy printers because of it. Then again many people can use work printers for free anyway.
Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by hiroantag on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @04:30AM (#45500716)
wait since when is that free? I've popped into the main branch to run off documents and definitely paid per page (although it's only something like 5 or 10 cents).
Re:Open Printer is an open source inkjet printer with DRM-fr... by raybb on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @02:06PM (#45506567)
I don't know when it started but you do need a library card

https://sfpl.libanswers.com/faq/341987