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Re: by unethical_ban on Thursday October 02, 2025 @05:38PM (#45455915)
9/11 was different. Yes, that's the difference. airport security was more lax, the way we dealt with hijackings was different, and the security on airplanes was minimal.

You had a heavily fortified military DMZ between the massive surveillance and military state of Israel and Hamas flying in with kites, bulldozers, and motorcycles. I hope it was merely a massive failure due to arrogance and misallocation of resources, because a plausible alternative is sadly realistic and believable.

Re: by JumpCrisscross on Thursday October 02, 2025 @05:44PM (#45455970)
We still don't have a comprehensive map of Hamas' tunnel systems. I think you're overestimating the degree to which 2 million people can be surveilled.
Re: by yibg on Thursday October 02, 2025 @05:58PM (#45456103)
Perhaps not, but it doesn't help when Israel demonstrates with pretty high frequency the ability to precisely target things, but then goes and drops a couple of 2000 pound bombs on a refugee camp. Or claim they know precisely how many hamas fighters have been killed but have no idea how many civilians have been killed.
Re: by JumpCrisscross on Thursday October 02, 2025 @06:17PM (#45456270)
Oh sure. I'm just saying that yes, it's overwhelmingly plausible that Israel missed October 7th because Netanyahu was distracted with his court-overhaul gambit.
Re: by unethical_ban on Friday October 03, 2025 @05:44AM (#45460991)
But they didn't come through via tunnels? They used bulldozers and hang-gliders to go above ground.
Re: by JumpCrisscross on Friday October 03, 2025 @03:12PM (#45466632)
> they didn't come through via tunnels? They used bulldozers and hang-gliders to go above ground

And the 9/11 terrorists used planes.

Unless there were literally zero unusual bulldozer and hang-glider citings ever made in Gaza, it shouldn't take that much imagination to see how the three thousandth one gets put to the side.