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Re:What good workplace politics looks like in practice by citizenpaul on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @06:37PM (#45444440)
Also how do you get invited? When the invitee is specifically inviting the CEO without you to circumvent your influence?

Who is going to do your job while you stroke egos?

Victim blaming as usual. The problem is you don't do the CTO's job in addition to your own....f-off with that hustle life nonsense.

Re:What good workplace politics looks like in practice by bluGill on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @06:59PM (#45444631)
You don't play with the ceo normally, but you play with others who play with the ceo (might be another level).

the important point is to be known a few levels up. That will get you places.

i'm not good at this, but people who are have gone farther than me.

Re:What good workplace politics looks like in practice by skeeter2020 on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @06:46PM (#45444523)
if you're one or two strokes under par for every hole you'll be invited because you're a world class player, or more likely you don't want to get invited because who wants to play with people who suck that bad?
Re:What good workplace politics looks like in practice by upfrog on Thursday October 02, 2025 @12:51AM (#45446408)
You get invited by actually trying to play. Not everyone who tries will get in, but it's a lot more likely that you'll succeed if you work the problem, instead of throwing up your hands in disgust at the world.

Non-technical skills matter. People and organizations have multi-faceted incentives. If you think the incentives of the people making decisions are leading to bad outcomes, then learn how to make that heard to them. Learn the situation as they see it, and use your own, better-aligned(?) incentives to improve the organization. And if it's not worth trying, so be it. But you need to accept that much of the world is you live in will continue to be shaped by the people who care enough to see "that hustle life nonsense" as a worthwhile trade.

Re:What good workplace politics looks like in practice by Maro on Thursday October 02, 2025 @01:27AM (#45446573)
I don't know if "victim blaming" [1] is the right wording, but I agree.

Doing weird shit like learning & going golfing just to keep idiots from making bad decisions shouldn't be part of our jobs.

[1] I don't think "victim" is a good term; we can always go get other jobs or drive a school bus instead