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Re:I only use Google Sheets by GuB-42 on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @09:24AM (#45437429)
> I keep telling people to make backups of "cloud" services

The usual rule when making backups is that you need 3 copies, one of them offsite. A cloud storage service counts as an offsite copy, but you still need two more, typically one on your computer and one in cold storage (ex: external hard drive).

Treat cloud storage like you treat your hard drive, it can fail at any time. The failure modes are different: mechanical failure vs losing access to your account, but the end result is the same: the system is unreliable and you have to engineer around it.

Re:I only use Google Sheets by Aachen on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @10:51AM (#45438381)
I think applying these traditional schemes to SaaS environments (now called cloud) can be misleading

When people want off-site backups, the server owner can say they've already taken care of that. I'd say that having a copy under your own control is a separate checkbox we should include!

Re:I only use Google Sheets by skydhash on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @11:03AM (#45438557)
Also backups in two separate legalizations if the hosting company is not in the same country as you or your company.
Re:I only use Google Sheets by Too on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @03:39PM (#45442324)
Good advice. Though I’d say you can count the cloud storage as 2 copies. They typically replicate the data to three drives, that covers all the typical failure modes you’d normally get when running a drive yourself. Then with a simple click you can even get a replica in another region.

The third backup being in a decoupled system on site is what you now count as your ”offsite” backup. Having this last copy is non-negotiable, no matter how many 9s S3 claim to have.