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Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by guywithahat on Tuesday September 30, 2025 @10:39AM (#45426069)
"caves" is an odd word choice. The platform banned the president of the united states, libeling him in the process, which feels like a pretty big and harmful deal. I don't want big tech regulating which politicians we're allowed to know about, and I would imagine most people would agree whether it's about a Republican or Democrat.
Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by LocalH on Tuesday September 30, 2025 @10:59AM (#45426322)
In the US, it's not libel if it's true.
Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by guywithahat on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @10:47AM (#45438343)
If it were true, Google, Meta, and X wouldn't have paid out ~60 million so far.

As far as I can tell this is becoming a dangerous line of logic. In Brazil they jailed Bolsonaro while saying he tried to throw an insurrection based off a protest, without real evidence. If we're going to arrest politicians every time their supporters riot the entire democratic caucus would be in jail. imo we should be making these decisions based on what the politician himself does, not what we believe their supporters have done.

Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by latexr on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @07:42PM (#45444932)
> If it were true, Google, Meta, and X wouldn't have paid out ~60 million so far.

They paid because they fear that not caving would be worse for them. Lawsuits aren’t cheap, and it’s a common tactic to sue someone to burden them with the costs of fighting it, thus getting them to shut up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_publ...

In this case, they also have to feat the possibility of legal repercussions in other ways, such as having business deals deliberately stalled or denied in retaliation, something the Trump administration has made very clear is something they are OK with doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_Jimmy_Kimmel_Liv...!

> based off a protest

You are oversimplifying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022–2023_Brazilian_coup_plot

Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by zenitsukz on Tuesday September 30, 2025 @10:52AM (#45426210)
Average politician hasn't tried to steal an election though
Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by pacman1337 on Tuesday September 30, 2025 @12:10PM (#45427319)
Many people have difficulty understanding the difference between a belief and a fact. I.e, you are talking about a belief but talking like it is a fact.
Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by zenitsukz on Tuesday September 30, 2025 @03:09PM (#45429805)
Sorry, what exactly is "not a fact" about it?
Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by guywithahat on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @10:34AM (#45438201)
I mean Meta, X, and Google have all paid him out so far.

Why would you think he tried to steal the election? What lead you to this belief? I don't think I know anyone in real life who holds this belief, I genuinely don't know why someone would think this.

Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by zenitsukz on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @10:59AM (#45438487)
Not sure what these companies paying the authoritarian tax is supposed to say about anything other than the president openly takes bribes.

> I don't think I know anyone in real life who holds this belief

Maybe you just don't know anyone who knows any of the facts? -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot

Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by guywithahat on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @06:37PM (#45444435)
I don't want to get too political on HN, but you should know according to the article essentially all of the money went to the government or lawyers, not Trump.
Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by zenitsukz on Thursday October 02, 2025 @04:58AM (#45447580)
Sure, "not Trump" just the pointless ballroom he decided to have built.
Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by UncleMeat on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @06:37PM (#45444438)
Yeah because we have a fascist fucking government and they are more interested in money than principle.

The effort to have false electors vote for Trump as president in 2020 is extremely documented. What exactly would you call that if not stealing the election?

Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by pacman1337 on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @08:59PM (#45445368)
Can you at least admit that it isn't a fact like the sky is blue or gravity pulls objects together?
Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by zenitsukz on Thursday October 02, 2025 @05:50AM (#45447806)
Except it is. It's been years since one of the most well documented attempts at a steal ever. Only the willfully blind remain unaware, it's undeniable -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot
Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by FireBeyond on Tuesday September 30, 2025 @11:10AM (#45426513)
How do you feel about Google's settlement being a donation to a Trust that's building the "Trump Ballroom"? Helpfully, Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, has formed a company that handles construction management for event spaces...
Re:YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement by Fairburn on Tuesday September 30, 2025 @12:42PM (#45427798)
Knowing about and having to hear his lies are two diff things.