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Re:AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi by lisper on Saturday September 27, 2025 @07:37PM (#45400285)
> They are going to act despairing -- but that's not the same thing as despairing.

But how can you tell the difference between "real" despair and a sufficiently high-quality simulation?

Re:AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi by serf on Sunday September 28, 2025 @12:22AM (#45401746)
for one, if we're allowed to peek under the hood : motivation.

a desire not to despair is itself a component of despair. if one was fulfilling a personal motivation to despair (like an llm might) it could be argued that the whole concept of despair falls apart.

how do you hope to have lost all hope? it's circular.. and so probably a poor abstraction.

( despair: the complete loss or absence of hope. )

Re:AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi by lisper on Sunday September 28, 2025 @11:38AM (#45405133)
> if we're allowed to peek under the hood

Peek under the hood all you want, where do you find motivation in the human brain?