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Re:AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi by sosodev on Saturday September 27, 2025 @01:13PM (#45397589)
Is a human incapable of such delusion given similar guidance?
Re:AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi by diputsmonro on Saturday September 27, 2025 @01:30PM (#45397746)
But would they? That's the difference. A human can exert their free will and do what they feel regardless of the instructions. The AI bot acting out a scene will do whatever you tell it (or in absence of specific instruction, whatever is most likely)
Re:AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi by ineedasername on Saturday September 27, 2025 @02:09PM (#45398096)
I think if you took a 100 1 year old kids and raised them all to adulthood believing they were a convincing simulation of humans and, whatever it is they said and thought they felt that true human consciousness and awareness was something different that they didn’t have because they weren’t human and awareness…

I think that for a very high number of them the training would stick hard, and would insist, upon questioning, that they weren’t human. And have any number of justifications that were logically consistent for it.

Of course I can’t prove this theory because my IRB repeatedly denied it on thin grounds about ethics, even when I pointed out that I could easily mess up my own children with no experimenting completely by accident, and didn’t need their approval to do it. I know your objections— small sample size, and I agree, but I still have fingers crossed on the next additions to the family being twins.

Re:AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi by scottmf on Saturday September 27, 2025 @03:41PM (#45398754)
Intuitively feels like this would lead to less empathy on average. Could be wrong though.
Re:AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi by zapperdulchen on Saturday September 27, 2025 @11:59PM (#45401655)
History serves you a similar experiment on a much larger scale. More than 35 years after the reunification sociologists still make out mentality differences between former East and West Germans.
Re:AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi by sosodev on Saturday September 27, 2025 @01:37PM (#45397813)
The bot will only do whatever you tell it if that's what it was trained to do. The same thing broadly applies to humans.

The topic of free will is debated among philosophers. There is no proof that it does or doesn't exist.

Re:AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi by dghlsakjg on Saturday September 27, 2025 @02:46PM (#45398402)
Humans pretty universally suffer in perpetual solitary confinement.

There are some things that humans cannot be trained to do, free will or not.

Re:AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi by diputsmonro on Saturday September 27, 2025 @01:47PM (#45397893)
Okay, but I think we can all agree that humans at least appear to have free will and do not simply follow instructions with the same obedience as an LLM.
Re:AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi by tinuviel on Saturday September 27, 2025 @01:26PM (#45397707)
Ofcourse. Feelings are not math.