Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus
by zmgsabst on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @10:36AM
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Both statements as written are true: vaccines do kill people and vaccines do save lives.
If you insert the implicit “all”, then both are false: not all vaccines save lives and not all vaccines kill people.
But your knowledge of medicine is quite deep if you know the relative rates of vaccines with zero deaths ever versus the rate at which defective vaccines are produced. Do you have a good source you can share?
Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus
by brookst on Thursday September 25, 2025 @09:29PM
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So many fallacies. To be charitable, I will assume you are just trying to wind people up with nonsensical rhetoric.
There are no zero-death vaccines, as you know. There are also no zero-death diseases, as you probably know. The relative rates of death between the two are not even close, as you know.
That’s the whole authoritarian / fascist shtick: if you can’t be 100% certain that no formulation of any vaccine has ever increased illness, then “vaccines kill people” is just as true as “vaccines save lives”.
I don’t need to have personally reviewed all records of every single version of every single vaccine to confidently assert the two statements are not remotely equivalent in accuracy.