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Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by fidotron on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @08:51AM (#45359588)
The important point is to distinguish between truth and the co-ordinated release of information in the NYT, BBC etc. The latter is very much intended to send a message, but it is not to be taken as literal truth.
Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by hnlmorg on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @09:29AM (#45360053)
I cannot about the NYT, but the BBC is one of the most impartial sources available.

So much so that the left and the right accuse the BBC of biasing the other in equal measures!

If you want to talk about bias in the UK press then you’re better off looking towards The Sun, The Mail and anything owned by Murdoch (that guy has done so much damage to the world it’s unreal).

Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by anukin on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @10:10AM (#45360658)
BBC is impartial till it reports on anything which has to do with its old colonies. Then it becomes high brow British aristocrat weapon of propaganda.
Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by semanticist on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @10:36AM (#45361053)
The left accuse the BBC of bias because, eg, the new Green Party leader has not been on any relevant BBC politics programs while Farage and other right wing politicians are regular fixtures.

The right accuse the BBC of bias because they fact-check them when they lie.

These things are not equivalent.

The BBC has lost a lot of credibility over the last decade or so. I can completely understand why they rolled over (often pre-emptively) to placate a Tory government that talked a lot about defunding them, but ultimately it has not served them well.

The newspaper situation in the UK is diabolical for sure.

Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by whatsupdog on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @09:50AM (#45360370)
> BBC is one of the most impartial sources available.

I really hope that is sarcasm. BBC is highly skewed to the left. No debate on that. Can you show me any story on BBC that is biased to the right?

Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by retsibsi on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @10:18AM (#45360797)
> Can you show me any story on BBC that is biased to the right?

They're saying that the BBC is relatively impartial, not that it is biased to the right.

If you're saying that the BBC has left-biased stories, and therefore the claim of impartiality requires evidence of counterbalancing right-biased stories, I think you need to start by providing evidence of the former. (Even if you think it's blindingly obvious that the left-biased content exists, your examples will clarify what would be required to balance it out.)

Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by pixl97 on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @10:19AM (#45360805)
Is the BBC highly skewed to the left, or is reality?
Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by tolerance on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @10:31AM (#45360969)
I don’t think this is the flex you think it is.
Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by lazyant on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @10:33AM (#45360996)
their treatment of Israel-Palestine
Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by rithdmc on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @12:47PM (#45362896)
or, both in modern times and during 'The Troubles', Ireland.

Biased does not mean it has to skew to a certain political leaning all of the time.

Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by ptaffs on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @10:13AM (#45360706)
I hope you're being sarcastic. If you do want a debate, there's plenty of research on bias at the BBC, and there are examples of bias left and right, pun intended.
Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by hnlmorg on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @01:44PM (#45363623)
> BBC is highly skewed to the left. No debate on that.

The fact that you argued that shows there is some debate. ;)

> Can you show me any story on BBC that is biased to the right?

No, because my point is that it isn’t biased to the left nor right.

What the BBC does is offer both sides of the political spectrum to have equal time sharing their arguments.

If you think that’s biased then what you’re actually saying is that the left deserves less time than the right. Thus it’s not the BBC exhibiting bias.

Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by abletonlive on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @12:44PM (#45362865)
> but the BBC is one of the most impartial sources available.

I almost spit out my coffee in laughter reading this. Entirely ridiculous assertion. You are completely blind to the fact that the BBC is insanely partial by picking and choosing what it reports on and what it doesn't. This is just level 2 detection of bias that you aren't reaching, imagine all the other things you're missing.

Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by hnlmorg on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @01:37PM (#45363524)
You’d need to have literally infinite resources if you wanted to avoid a situation of having to pick and choose what you report on.

What matters is that all sides of the debate get representation. And the BBC does this almost to a fault.

The ironic thing is the fact that BBC is so good at doing this, everyone feels their voice is marginalised and then complains of bias.

So when people call the BBC “biased”, and as ferociously as you have, what they’re actually saying is “the BBC airs too many opinions that oppose my own biases”

Re:That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus by zenmac on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @09:34AM (#45360128)
>the co-ordinated release of information

That hit the nail right on the head, with ONLY 6 companies controlling all the mainstream media. News are just like coordinated company memo.