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Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by jmcgough on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @01:04PM (#45349849)
Tom Stuart gave a really good lightning talk about this a decade ago, which is very respectful and has aged well https://tomstu.art/the-dhh-problem

It's not just about his politics. DHH is reactionary, mean, dismissive of others' opinions. He acts more like a high school bully than a leader.

Since then, DHH has gone off the deep end with xenophobic, racist, and transphobic comments. I was drawn to the Ruby community because of its kindness and creativity, with people like why the lucky stiff and Jim Weirich. It is a lot less welcoming when DHH repeatedly uses his platform to say that I shouldn't exist or have equal rights.

Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by leosanchez on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @01:26PM (#45350184)
> It is a lot less welcoming when DHH repeatedly uses his platform to say that I shouldn't exist or have equal rights.

Can you point to any of his blog posts that says this ?

Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by disiplus on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @01:39PM (#45350334)
He is not stupid enough to say that directly bit it's one google away to find stuff like.

I follow him on Twitter and guy is a bully and has opinions about stuff he has 0 knowledge about.

https://world.hey.com/dhh/the-social-media-censorship-era-is...

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Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by disiplus on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @04:58PM (#45352667)
There are more

Like this one. You don't even have to read between the lines to see what is his attitude.

https://world.hey.com/dhh/gender-and-sexuality-alliances-in-...

Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by lemmsjid on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @06:24PM (#45353569)
Interesting. Things I think of as quite reasonable, though certainly with counter arguments, are to him fundamentally preposterous and not even worthy of reasonable consideration.

My kid goes to a very liberal California school. The main difference between it and my school growing up is that it is no longer acceptable to ostracize or beat up lgbtq kids or kids who are different in other ways. Part of that is because, gasp, the school builds acceptance into the curriculum. I wish I grew up now, it’s such a nicer time to be a weird nerd.

Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by ecshafer on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @06:09PM (#45353407)
What percentage of people and parents in the world do you think agree with DHH here? My guess would be around 95%. I dont see any issues with his arguments, that is wholly inappropriate for schools.
Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by liveoneggs on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @05:59PM (#45353306)
the objections shown here seem quite reasonable and, apparently, reflect the will of the parents.

Omnicause stuff isn't popular.

Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by gsinclair on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @11:30PM (#45355979)
More power to DHH’s pen, in this case. What he has written is not remotely controversial, but some will use it as evidence that he is trans-phobic.
Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by mplewis on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @10:37PM (#45355665)
Yeah, how about the one where he says Tommy Robinson was right? https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64
Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by prepend on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @01:26PM (#45350193)
How is his code?

I guess I’m so old that I remember not paying much attention to personal lives and looking at code contributions and collaboration behavior. I think that being a sensitive collaborator who builds changes was more relevant than swearing at people or saying rude things.

I once worked for a company where one developer hit another in the face with a keyboard. Was it wrong, yes of course. But we still delivered a pretty decent product.

I don’t really care if you, or others feel I should exist or not. Or whether they think I should or shouldn’t have rights, unless you mean permissions to change and maintain code.

Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by jmcgough on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @02:12PM (#45350776)
> I don’t really care if you, or others feel I should exist or not. Or whether they think I should or shouldn’t have rights

Yes, but you don't really need to worry, because those things aren't a real threat to you. Imagine if you were a member of a minority group making up 1% of the population, with a government actively persecuting you.

Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by brigandish on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @02:31AM (#45356995)
Is DHH part of the government, one that is actively persecuting a minority? If not, then you're talking about someone who is not in power and not persecuting a minority (or anyone). How is that relevant?
Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by amanaplanacanal on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @01:54PM (#45350537)
Unfortunately, in the current political climate the stakes are much higher.
Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by marcinzm on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @02:22PM (#45350882)
Supporting people that want to and are pushing for the government to kill you and your loved ones seems like such an odd thing for someone to do. Not even sure how to describe it.
Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by bn-l on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @10:00PM (#45355410)
The cancel culture is a cancer in open source and cancellers are utter scumbags.
Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by scuff3d on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @03:14AM (#45357262)
Not wanting to work with a racist asshole isn't cancel culture. It's common sense.

Also, this isn't a new fucking phenomenon. I remember when Ellen DeGeneres came out as gay (before everyone knew what an ass she was), and it nearly destroyed her career. Or when the Dixie Chicks dared to criticized George Bush and it did ruin their career. The same people complaining about cancel culture now we're the ones doing the cancelling then.

Re:Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler ... by sleight42 on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @10:08AM (#45360637)
I got into Ruby and the community in 2006.

I aspired to be like Jim. We all should.

He made time for anyone who wanted to engage him in a sincere discussion. He helped a lot of newer people. He wrote beautiful tools that we still use.

He embodied MINASWAN. That has been the core of Ruby's community.

DHH has been pretty damn far from that.

Did many of us find Ruby through Rails? Sure. Does that mean that Ruby should be stewarded by someone who is intolerant and therefore exclusionary? No.

That's the opposite of MINASWAN.