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Re:Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden? by bigyabai on Sunday September 21, 2025 @08:31PM (#45327970)
If humanity develops the need for "burner planets" then maybe we don't deserve to expand past our solar system...
Re:Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden? by elcritch on Sunday September 21, 2025 @11:56PM (#45328971)
Read about the great oxidation event other commenters have mentioned. Biology doesn't so much care about an ideal of balance.

Our beloved natural balanced ecosystems are just an artifact of the fact that unbalanced systems change until they reach some equilibrium.

Re:Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden? by refactor_master on Sunday September 21, 2025 @09:16PM (#45328198)
It's funny that you're using the word "deserve". Based on whose moral framework? I'm not sure current moral frameworks on Earth would be against colonizing the Universe if it was possible.
Re:Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden? by r14c on Sunday September 21, 2025 @10:47PM (#45328643)
Its not even about deserving it. How are going to maintain a terraforming project or build habitable orbital platforms if we can't manage keeping our natural habitat habitable?
Re:Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden? by bamboozled on Sunday September 21, 2025 @11:14PM (#45328764)
Maybe projects like this would distract us from stupid tribalism ?
Re:Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden? by r14c on Sunday September 21, 2025 @11:46PM (#45328905)
distractions don't solve problems. "just do the projects" doesn't resolve the management issue anyway. the climate crisis is a result of our inability to coordinate mass actions on a planetary scale to avoid damaging our habitat.
Re:Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden? by bigyabai on Sunday September 21, 2025 @11:20PM (#45328793)
Maybe it would profoundly exacerbate preexisting inequality under the guise of betterment for "all" mankind.
Re:Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden? by teamonkey on Monday September 22, 2025 @04:05AM (#45330418)
Someone gets to choose who lives on these outposts.
Re:Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden? by bamboozled on Monday September 22, 2025 @07:01AM (#45331728)
Maybe if we worked together, we could actually use robots to do a lot of the initital work, then head over for fun when it's getting nice?

Once can dream I guess...

Re:Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden? by tomrod on Sunday September 21, 2025 @11:10PM (#45328746)
We are the only known intelligent life the universe has ever produced. Anti-natal ecoism is a bit of a fallacy.
Re:Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden? by Lerc on Sunday September 21, 2025 @08:42PM (#45328018)
Not the argument. The elimination of life on earth can happen due to non human causes. An impact of the sort that created the moon would do the job.