Universities should be more than toll gates

Re:Universities should be more than toll gates by xhkkffbf on Sunday September 21, 2025 @11:16AM (#45323508)

I was talking with a professor yesterday who claimed his students don't ask questions any more on Piazza. They used to, but now they go to ChatGPT which is always perky and ready to answer. Plus, there's no shame in asking a dumb question as there can be in class or on Piazza.

He says it's only a matter of time before the students realize they don't need him. Or need to pay tuition.

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Re:Universities should be more than toll gates by tayo42 on Sunday September 21, 2025 @12:14PM (#45323993)

We're already there with the "do my own research" crowd.

Im not a huge defender of college and lean towards it being mostly a waste, but the other extreme is problematic.

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Re:Universities should be more than toll gates by ioteg on Sunday September 21, 2025 @11:46AM (#45323756)

Most people don’t go to the university to learn, they go to get a diploma. If you don’t pay tuition they will not give you a diploma.

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Re:Universities should be more than toll gates by jagged-chisel on Sunday September 21, 2025 @12:13PM (#45323985)

And we’ve all been sold a bill of goods on the necessity of diplomas and degrees. Because businesses have been sold a bill of goods on the quality of employees with diplomas and degrees.

Within at least the last 15 years, the paper provided by a school is no guarantee of better pay - but that’s how high schoolers are convinced to go into excessive debt for attending post-secondary schools.

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Re:Universities should be more than toll gates by mcherm on Sunday September 21, 2025 @12:34PM (#45324234)

> the paper provided by a school is no guarantee of better pay

Perhaps not, but the lack of that paper IS a guarantee of worse pay.

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