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Re:$100K fee added to H1B applications by matthewdgreen on Saturday September 20, 2025 @03:25PM (#45316508)
I have no idea what your culture is, but the entire notion that domestic violence is something to be monitored and prevented by outsiders was invented very recently in most cultures. So my assumption is that it was pretty damn widespread everywhere, no matter what our ancestors like to tell us.
Re:$100K fee added to H1B applications by dotancohen on Saturday September 20, 2025 @05:00PM (#45317485)
So you have an assumption that contradicts the teachings of our holiest texts, which we are known to adhere to.

I'm sure some incidences have occurred throughout history. But some cultures actually prescribe when [1] one should beat their wife. Ours forbids it.

  [1] Quran Al-Nisa 34: "For women you suspect to be disloyal: admonish them, refuse to share their beds, strike them."
Re:$100K fee added to H1B applications by matthewdgreen on Saturday September 20, 2025 @05:51PM (#45317913)
I assume this is just garden-variety "being racist on the Internet" commentary, but in case you actually believe this: go ask ChatGPT for a list of the sections that urge murder and violence against women in any given holy text.
Re:$100K fee added to H1B applications by dotancohen on Saturday September 20, 2025 @05:55PM (#45317937)
You believe ChatGPT over the holy Quran?

And where do you see me being racist? Where did I mention race anywhere?

Re:$100K fee added to H1B applications by dotancohen on Sunday September 21, 2025 @10:30AM (#45323051)
Consulting ChatGPT was an interesting exercise, thank you.

  > Me: Please provide a list of holy book verses that prescribe violence against one's wife.
ChatGPT:

Here are the major holy book verses that are most often cited in connection with violence specifically against one’s wife:

Qur’an

Qur’an 4:34 – "…As to those women on whose part you fear disobedience, admonish them, forsake them in bed, and strike them…".

Hebrew Bible / Old Testament

No verse prescribes a man striking his wife as a disciplinary measure.

New Testament

There are no verses in the New Testament that permit a husband to strike or kill his wife. Passages instead emphasize submission:

Ephesians 5:22–24 – Wives should submit to their husbands.

Colossians 3:18 – Wives submit to husbands.

Hindu Texts (Manusmriti)

Manusmriti 8.299–300 – Advises physical punishment of wives for misconduct (using a rope or split bamboo). (Not a “holy book” for all Hindus, but historically influential in law.)

Summary:

The only major canonical verse that explicitly prescribes a husband striking his wife is Qur’an 4:34. Other scriptures (Torah, New Testament) do not instruct husbands to physically punish wives, though they prescribe harsh penalties (often death) for unmarried women’s sexual transgressions.

Would you like me to also include later religious legal codes (like Talmudic halakha, Islamic fiqh rulings, Canon law), or just stick strictly to the scriptural verses themselves?