Re:$100K fee added to H1B applications
by nwienert on Friday September 19, 2025 @10:36PM
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This doesn’t really tell us much, and isn’t really relevant to H1B either. If we had 0 immigration, all S&P 500 companies would be founded by non-immigrants.
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Re:$100K fee added to H1B applications
by outworlder on Friday September 19, 2025 @11:08PM
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Not really. Companies would still be founded, but there's no way to tell if they would ever grow to the point that would be listed in the S&P 500.
Re:$100K fee added to H1B applications
by nwienert on Friday September 19, 2025 @11:58PM
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Not sure if you don’t understand how they define the S&P, or you’re straw manning.
Re:$100K fee added to H1B applications
by estebarb on Saturday September 20, 2025 @09:07AM
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That is half true. It also would be a USA without Apple, Nvidia, Google, Tesla, Intel, Qualcomm, Yahoo, Paypal, eBay, Pfizer, P&G, Goldman Sachs...
Re:$100K fee added to H1B applications
by dalyons on Saturday September 20, 2025 @11:55AM
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This is a useless “technically correct” rejoinder. Yes, the top 500 would by definition still have 500 companies in it. Yes, the net value of the s&p would almost certainly be lower without the innovation brought by immigrant founders. Which is obviously the point being made.
Re:$100K fee added to H1B applications
by nwienert on Saturday September 20, 2025 @01:51PM
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H1B started in the 90s, when the economy was at all time highs, and since then growth has been less impressive.
It is your comment in fact that decided to assume I missed the point, while assuming something that’s almost certainly not easy to assume.