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Re:Jimmy Kimmel Should Have Strong Odds at the Supreme Court by mrangle on Thursday September 18, 2025 @07:40PM (#45296347)
Terrorists
Re:Jimmy Kimmel Should Have Strong Odds at the Supreme Court by JumpCrisscross on Thursday September 18, 2025 @07:44PM (#45296373)
> Terrorists

Terrorists do terrorism. What terrorism has Antifa done? (Answer: little to none [1].)

I’m not a fan of them. But they’re about as obnoxious as several far-right groups that have been legally sanctioned by both parties.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-e...

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Re:Jimmy Kimmel Should Have Strong Odds at the Supreme Court by JumpCrisscross on Thursday September 18, 2025 @08:14PM (#45296560)
> Who are you trying to debate, exactly?

In this case, I guess my case is made by the hysterical nature of this comment. The people arguing Antifa are terrorists aren’t working with facts but hyperactive emotions.

Re:Jimmy Kimmel Should Have Strong Odds at the Supreme Court by mrangle on Thursday September 18, 2025 @10:50PM (#45297460)
Sure thing. Happy to leave those posts to be compared, to make your case. Good gamble.

However consider that you may have the emotional "difficulty" if, in your view, the observer who looks at the frequent terroristic violence of the Antifa domestic violent extremists (DVEs) is the location of the emotional problem.

Do you remember when Antifa kicked-in a full-wall of entrance-door windows at UC Davis, where Charlie Kirk was speaking?

That frightening event is on-video from the perspective of the attendees and security guards who were being terrorized on the other side of the doors.

This being one of countless on-video Antifa terrorist actions. Do you wish to litigate more of the on-video Antifa terrorist acts? Many are much worse.

High level political leader Charlie Kirk is now dead due to an assassin's bullet. An assassin who carved antifascist phrases onto multiple bullets.

What was that, again, in regard to hyperactive emotions and working with facts?

Objectively, Antifa are terrorists. Antifa is being designated a terrorist organization for that reason.

Defend them all that you like, but keep that reality in-mind.

What's your guess on the percentage of people commenting here who felt elation at Kirk's assassination? That disgusting percentage would be a true tell.

No need to answer, as everyone knows what it is and I don't need to read a lie that literally no one believes.

Antifa is being designated a terrorist org for good reason.

Moreover, the American left has a structural DVE problem. In terms of both actors and, crucially, in terms of supporters of their actions.

This widespread DVE support problem in the DNC voter population, highlighted after a high level political assassination, is why Kimmel is now off of the air.

If Kimmel fights this, he'll essentially be fighting an anti-radicalization effort initiated by the US government to confront a true political stability crisis after an assassination. Which is a US National Security issue.

If your high profile speech serves to maintain or further the radicalization of the DVE's after a catastrophic DVE event, then expect legal pushback. Not understanding where you are in the timeline will be continuously frustrating.

But keep talking, if you still think that you aren't entirely oblivious to how the most powerful governments in the World see Antifa in this moment in history.

Do you think that you can convince them, let alone the populace of the United States of your views? The wheels have long-been turning.

Antifa's self-proclaimed popularity is a fiction. Anyone who has differing views from them feels intimidated by them, hates them, and is terrorized by them. Which is the definition of effective terrorism.

Nothing like Antifa can be allowed to continue to exist in civilization. Common citizens cannot be afraid of being accosted by political actors when attending events of any kind. They cannot be afraid of walking or driving through an Antifa mob, when not going to events. Which they are, for very good reason rooted in Antifa terroristic behaviors. There was always a clock on Antifa.

Like all significant criminal enterprises, Antifa can only continue to exist within civilization because it is protected by at least portions of the government and institutions. Which is what everyone witnessed in 2020, at minimum. Otherwise, police and agencies easily and eagerly would have destroyed any will to organize as violent Black Bloc. Believing anything else is self-delusion. Antifa's self-concept has always been a farce.

But that support is 100% over once designated as a terrorist org.

Antifa had high-level institutional protection. Now it can not.

I recommend de-radicalization.

Re:Jimmy Kimmel Should Have Strong Odds at the Supreme Court by orwin on Friday September 19, 2025 @04:49AM (#45299427)
Helldivers is antifa now, we should arrest their Devs I guess :/

Antifascists is an adolescent and violent ideology, to match their declared opponents. But if you push too much against it, you might create an united front that is ideologically way more dangerous (especially with how low the confidence in capitalism is) and the US will have to go full McCarthyism again.

Re:Jimmy Kimmel Should Have Strong Odds at the Supreme Court by lawlessone on Thursday September 18, 2025 @07:41PM (#45296352)
where's their hq? who's their leader?
Re:Jimmy Kimmel Should Have Strong Odds at the Supreme Court by JumpCrisscross on Thursday September 18, 2025 @07:45PM (#45296377)
To be fair, neither of these are gating requirements for a terrorist group.