Re:The U.S. Government's Extraordinary Pursuit of Kilmar Ábr...
by nickff on Monday September 15, 2025 @01:44PM
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Do you think the Justice Department should prosecute people they believe to be innocent? If not, it seems that every prosecution is an expression of the view that the accused is guilty, and by allowing the JD to proceed, the President is expressing approval of the view. Can you please point out the error in this logic?
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Re:The U.S. Government's Extraordinary Pursuit of Kilmar Ábr...
by Eddy_Viscosity2 on Monday September 15, 2025 @02:22PM
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The error is this logic is that it precludes the possibility that the Justice Department thinks (know for a fact even) that he is innocent but is pursuing the case anyway because political pressure from the President preferring him to be punished rather than admit a mistake.
Re:The U.S. Government's Extraordinary Pursuit of Kilmar Ábr...
by mecsred on Monday September 15, 2025 @01:58PM
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Belief is not binary and can change with new evidence. You may believe it is likely someone is innocent, but should still witness all the evidence to update your beliefs. In the rare case that there is concrete and infallible evidence that the accused IS innocent, they are typically not prosecuted, or it wraps up very quickly.
Re:The U.S. Government's Extraordinary Pursuit of Kilmar Ábr...
by throwway120385 on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @12:28PM
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This is the entire purpose of a jury trial. The intent is that the jury bears witness to all of the facts of the situation and listens to the prosecution's and defense's interpretation of those facts, and then decides whether the defendant committed any or all of the crimes they are accused of.
Re:The U.S. Government's Extraordinary Pursuit of Kilmar Ábr...
by faut_reflechir on Monday September 15, 2025 @01:54PM
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The potential source of error is the assumption that the president has the authority to stop a prosecution (short of the pardon power). I say "potential" because a "unitary executive" advocate would claim this is true, and it is becoming more true during the second Trump administration, although it was notably false during the first one. [In prior administrations, including Trump I and Obama, the DOJ appointed independent counsel precisely to prosecute cases the president would have disagreed with prosecuting.]