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Re:EU court rules nuclear energy is clean energy by mpweiher on Saturday September 13, 2025 @12:59PM (#45233548)
It's actually not, as it correctly states 50 direct fatalities.

What is grossly messed up are, or were, the initial projections of thousands, ten-thousand, no hundreds of thousands or even millions of fatalities.

The WHO does a report every decade on the health effects of Chernobyl. Each report had to reduce the projected fatalities by an order of magnitude.

One or two reports ago, the psycho-social effects of the evacuation and loss of income from the plant became greater than the effects of radiation, whether direct or indirect.

And of course all the fatalities and more or less all the negative health effects of Fukushima were due to the unnecessary evacuations.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095758201...

Neither case justifies turning off other nuclear reactors. Not even a little.

Radiophobia is more dangerous than radiation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiophobia

Re:EU court rules nuclear energy is clean energy by arcane23 on Sunday September 14, 2025 @12:59AM (#45237565)
I will use the "rabid" replies I got as evidence towards interests of minimizing the scare for nuclear because there's many other interests behind it and I doubt it would get a fair shake. A lot of political and economic interests are known to muddy the truth.

And this isn't the first time this happened, had a few debates before and out of nowhere quite a few people insist going as hard as possible, to no end, to dispel "misinformation", like that is what normal people do. I think you should be ashamed of yourselves for denying the pain and suffering of so many people "for a greater purpose".

>Radiophobia

I do not have this issue, I am not scared of a bit higher radiation, I understand the body can deal with quite a lot (compared to normal background).

I am scared of what could happen when humans and their politics get involved. There's more dangers than proper implementation, there can also be sabotage fears, as recent events have shown. I really don't understand why you'd accuse me of such a thing unless you're trying to smear me, which again...makes your rabid responses rather suspicious.

Re:EU court rules nuclear energy is clean energy by mpweiher on Sunday September 14, 2025 @07:31AM (#45239052)
> I will use the "rabid" replies I got...

The only "rabid" reply here is yours. All the others have politely pointed out that you were incorrect.

> >Radiophobia

> I do not have this issue,

Read the definition: "...leading to overestimating the health risks of radiation compared to other risks."

You do exactly that. And when people point the actual risk, you immediately go to the ad-hominem and smear them. And at the same time accuse them of smearing you.

> I think you should be ashamed of yourselves for denying the pain and suffering of so many people "for a greater purpose".

Nobody here has done that.

However, you are denying the pain and suffering of the people who suffer due to us not adopting more nuclear power.

The adoption of nuclear power had saved an estimated 1.8 million lives by 2011.

https://www.giss.nasa.gov/pubs/abs/kh05000e.html

Conversely, the turning off of nuclear power plants or delaying/cancelling of new builds post Chernobyl has caused hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives.

We estimate that the decline in NPP caused by Chernobyl led to the loss of approximately 141 million expected life years in the U.S., 33 in the U.K. and 318 million globally

https://www.sciencespo.fr/department-economics/sites/science...

A more compact read:

Coal Pollution Likely Kills More People Annually Than Will Ever Die from Chernobyl Radiation

https://reason.com/2016/04/26/more-deaths-from-coal-pollutio...