Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by diogenescynic on Friday September 12, 2025 @10:24AM
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I'm for universal healthcare, bud. Just because she's for it doesn't justify her lies about saying the COVID vaccines 100% killed the virus and prevented the spread from individual to individual, that the Hunter Biden laptop was fake, that Biden was sharp as a tack, that Trump was literally a Russian agent receiving his orders from Putin via Alfa Bank server...
You simply think the end justifies the means.
>Maddow advocates for universal healthcare. If we get universal healthcare and she dies because she lost private healthcare, that would be deeply ironic and everyone should point that out upon her death, throwing all her words supporting universal healthcare back at her ghost. I would 100% support that.
This argument is backwards. It would not be ironic and the better metaphor is if she died in Canada in a country with universal healthcare. You don't even understand your own shitty half-baked argument. Go touch grass.
>Across the left I see calls for gun control. If the left had their way, gun violence wouldn't be the problem that it is in America.
It's never going to happen and this is why the left keeps losing. There are too many guns and too much support for them. Instead of harping on this dead end idea, maybe actually put cops in schools and fortify classrooms and take protections? But the left doesn't do that because they're rather the kids keep getting slaughtered so they can use them as talking points like you. In the left's warped mind: taxes are virtuous, no tax rate is high enough, republicans are sub-human Nazis, Trump is a fascist dictator/tyrant, and 2nd amendment must be repealed---yet year after year they lose more and more seats in Congress and have lost 4M voters since 2020. Your ideas are a dead end and will guarantee your party ends up extinct and in the dust bin of history. Your ideas suck!
I say all of this as someone who voted for Obama twice, never voted for Trump, doesn't own a gun, is pro-universal healthcare and pro-gun control--but you have to see reality for what it is. Democrats are on a losing course that will guarantee there is less political choice because they are making themselves politically obsolete and irrelevant and out of touch.
>calling out "Nazi rhetoric" as the culprit is premature.
You're kind of gross? Of course calling people Nazis and subhumans and othering them is bad. This is exactly why political violence occurs. You have to learnt to disagree with your neighbors and coworkers and fellow citizens without dehumanizing them and pretending like you ALWAYS hold the moral high ground. Quit watching MSNBC and get some fresh sources--challenge your bubble.
Oh also, google the inscribing on the bullets and it's crystal clear this was a left wing shooter. It's been confirmed by the Governor of Utah--but the media likes to cover up all these trans/leftist shooters.
You simply think the end justifies the means.
>Maddow advocates for universal healthcare. If we get universal healthcare and she dies because she lost private healthcare, that would be deeply ironic and everyone should point that out upon her death, throwing all her words supporting universal healthcare back at her ghost. I would 100% support that.
This argument is backwards. It would not be ironic and the better metaphor is if she died in Canada in a country with universal healthcare. You don't even understand your own shitty half-baked argument. Go touch grass.
>Across the left I see calls for gun control. If the left had their way, gun violence wouldn't be the problem that it is in America.
It's never going to happen and this is why the left keeps losing. There are too many guns and too much support for them. Instead of harping on this dead end idea, maybe actually put cops in schools and fortify classrooms and take protections? But the left doesn't do that because they're rather the kids keep getting slaughtered so they can use them as talking points like you. In the left's warped mind: taxes are virtuous, no tax rate is high enough, republicans are sub-human Nazis, Trump is a fascist dictator/tyrant, and 2nd amendment must be repealed---yet year after year they lose more and more seats in Congress and have lost 4M voters since 2020. Your ideas are a dead end and will guarantee your party ends up extinct and in the dust bin of history. Your ideas suck!
I say all of this as someone who voted for Obama twice, never voted for Trump, doesn't own a gun, is pro-universal healthcare and pro-gun control--but you have to see reality for what it is. Democrats are on a losing course that will guarantee there is less political choice because they are making themselves politically obsolete and irrelevant and out of touch.
>calling out "Nazi rhetoric" as the culprit is premature.
You're kind of gross? Of course calling people Nazis and subhumans and othering them is bad. This is exactly why political violence occurs. You have to learnt to disagree with your neighbors and coworkers and fellow citizens without dehumanizing them and pretending like you ALWAYS hold the moral high ground. Quit watching MSNBC and get some fresh sources--challenge your bubble.
Oh also, google the inscribing on the bullets and it's crystal clear this was a left wing shooter. It's been confirmed by the Governor of Utah--but the media likes to cover up all these trans/leftist shooters.