Please re-read the post you replied to; literally no one was blaming Kirk for public shootings happening. They were mentioning that Kirk has previously remarked about how shootings are ultimately a necessary trade-off for 2A rights. Seriously, you might also want to read the Newsweek article that the OP linked to; Kirk is quoted:
> "You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death," Kirk said at a Turning Point USA Faith event on Wednesday, as reported by Media Matters for America. "That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am—I think it's worth it. "I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."
Kirk SAID THIS; there's video of him saying this as well; I had to double check this myself as, putting aside the irony of his own death, how can anyone rationalise this way? Let alone say it out loud? I never heard of this guy before now and the more I read about him, the more I am astounded in the worst possibly ways.
> The left really needs to get a grip and look in the mirror. I have seen way too many 'normal' democrats mocking his death and implying it was justified because he was a 2nd amendment supporter. So are many of your friends, relatively, coworkers. When they see you express that opinion, we realize you're a sociopath and you're the fascist who thinks anyone who disagrees deserves death.
You are now ranting against a made-up argument that literally NO ONE made, but you.
Imagine if Rachel Maddow died and republicans behaved even slightly similarly... you'd all be crying about fascism and acting hysterical. Would it be okay if republicans said something like, too bad she didn't have more security but she didn't support the 2nd amendment, so her death is no big deal (like you are)--BUT because it was a republican, you can just cite his support for the 2nd amendment and go--see he deserved it because he won't just agree to repealing the 2nd amendment. Which to normal people comes off as unhinged. Imagine if you did this for every non-public figure who also supported 2nd amendment. 'Ah well, too bad they weren't against the 2nd amendment, then their death would actually be tragic.' The left has become so unhinged that they don't even see republicans as human and don't value their deaths/lives. This is what 10+ years of calling republicans Nazis does... eventually some mentally ill people are going to take it seriously and start killing people.
> The left has become so unhinged that they don't even see republicans as human and don't value their deaths/lives.
Across the left I see calls for gun control. If the left had their way, gun violence wouldn't be the problem that it is in America. The left is just sick of burying dead children with holes in them, there's not sympathy left for literally anyone else, especially Kirk, who advocated for this to continue happening. Thoughts and prayers, whatever. Can we do gun control now? No? Then what are we even talking about, we'll just be here again soon enough.
> This is what 10+ years of calling republicans Nazis does... eventually some mentally ill people are going to take it seriously and start killing people.
Unlike the rest of us, you seem to know who the killer was and why he did what he did. At this stage it's just as likely Kirk was shot by a disillusioned fan based on his reaction to the Epstein files, per Laura Loomer's post. Actually, a priori it's far more likely seeing as the statistics show rightwing shooters are far more frequent than leftwing shooters. So calling out "Nazi rhetoric" as the culprit is premature.
You simply think the end justifies the means.
>Maddow advocates for universal healthcare. If we get universal healthcare and she dies because she lost private healthcare, that would be deeply ironic and everyone should point that out upon her death, throwing all her words supporting universal healthcare back at her ghost. I would 100% support that.
This argument is backwards. It would not be ironic and the better metaphor is if she died in Canada in a country with universal healthcare. You don't even understand your own shitty half-baked argument. Go touch grass.
>Across the left I see calls for gun control. If the left had their way, gun violence wouldn't be the problem that it is in America.
It's never going to happen and this is why the left keeps losing. There are too many guns and too much support for them. Instead of harping on this dead end idea, maybe actually put cops in schools and fortify classrooms and take protections? But the left doesn't do that because they're rather the kids keep getting slaughtered so they can use them as talking points like you. In the left's warped mind: taxes are virtuous, no tax rate is high enough, republicans are sub-human Nazis, Trump is a fascist dictator/tyrant, and 2nd amendment must be repealed---yet year after year they lose more and more seats in Congress and have lost 4M voters since 2020. Your ideas are a dead end and will guarantee your party ends up extinct and in the dust bin of history. Your ideas suck!
I say all of this as someone who voted for Obama twice, never voted for Trump, doesn't own a gun, is pro-universal healthcare and pro-gun control--but you have to see reality for what it is. Democrats are on a losing course that will guarantee there is less political choice because they are making themselves politically obsolete and irrelevant and out of touch.
>calling out "Nazi rhetoric" as the culprit is premature.
You're kind of gross? Of course calling people Nazis and subhumans and othering them is bad. This is exactly why political violence occurs. You have to learnt to disagree with your neighbors and coworkers and fellow citizens without dehumanizing them and pretending like you ALWAYS hold the moral high ground. Quit watching MSNBC and get some fresh sources--challenge your bubble.
Oh also, google the inscribing on the bullets and it's crystal clear this was a left wing shooter. It's been confirmed by the Governor of Utah--but the media likes to cover up all these trans/leftist shooters.