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Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by iugtmkbdfil834 on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @05:07PM (#45203731)
<< This country has soundly rejected any form of sensible gun control.

Hmm. Do you know why? Having seen the basic pattern of action of anti-gun people, I have come to realization that nothing is ever enough. They will just keep pushing for more stuff regardless of 'wins' they score.

Granted, some of it is various organizations and they really don't want to say 'mission accomplished'. Still, my point remains. I no longer really accept any changes to status quo.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by Tade0 on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @06:30PM (#45204934)
> I no longer really accept any changes to status quo.

How about, at the very least, making it mandatory to report firearm theft? IIRC currently only 15 states actually have such a requirement.

I'm not American and for a long time I could not understand why American fiction, be it books or movies, assumes guns are available even in a zombie apocalypse. That is until I learned the above fact.

The fact that one can steal a gun and have no one report that makes firearms essentially a natural resource in the US.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by jmyeet on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @05:29PM (#45204080)
This is a deep topic but it comes down to American hyper-individualism and (you guessed it) white supremacy.

The origins of hyper-individualism are complex. I ssupect the frontier nature of the US played a big part, directly and indirectly. Think about it: who left Europe for the US? Largely people who were escaping the social systems of the Old World for various reasons. There's a selection bias here. We as a country fetishize the Wild West. It's a core part of the American mythology.

But that doesn't mean we want everyone to have guns. Oh no. Famously, then California Governor Ronald Reagan famously passed the Mulford Act in 1967 because the Black Panthers began open carrying weapons [1].

For more contemporary examples, we can look at how certain deaths are treated differently. One famous example is Amir Locke who owned a legal firearm. The police served a no-knock warrant so didn't identify themselves and he was shot by police when he stirred from sleep with his weapon.

This was a legal firearm owner at home who was executed by the police. Where was the NRA outrage for that? What about other Second Amendment defenders? What could be different about this particular firearm owner?

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Amir_Locke

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by FireBeyond on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @05:53PM (#45204448)
I think though joked about, one of the most telling things about the NRA is their absolute militancy about gun rights... when it suits them. As you pointed out.

And as also evidenced by things like "From my cold, dead hands! ... unless you're at an NRA convention, in which case please use these lockers or leave your gun at home, and walk through this metal detector, please."

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by throwmeaway222 on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @05:20PM (#45203915)
Can you at least say it's wrong?