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Re:Supabase OrioleDB Patent: now freely available to the Pos... by joshuaissac on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @12:16PM (#45199869)
I like how well-thought-out the licence revocation clause of the AOMedia patent licence is. It takes effect when a licensee sues over an implementation specifically over the relevant patent claims--so lawsuits unrelated to these patent claims are allowed (so if you infringe on other patents but also implement the licensed patent in the same implementation, the rights holder of the other patents can sue you over those claims without losing their licence)--and there is also a carve-out for counterclaims, and lawsuits to enforce this licence.

But I am not sure if the first exemption is necessarily a good thing. The Apache License, Version 2.0 is broader in what may be grounds for patent licence termination. So it is a better deterrent against patent trolls (even if that means some legitimate patent claims are also discouraged).

Re:Supabase OrioleDB Patent: now freely available to the Pos... by nightpool on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @01:32PM (#45201023)
Cypher in a sibling comment makes a good argument that this was the same logic (patent termination for legitimate, non-licensed patent claims) that got Facebook in trouble: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45199687
Re:Supabase OrioleDB Patent: now freely available to the Pos... by cyphar on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @08:03PM (#45205891)
I re-read the text again and it's even worse than the Facebook one -- the entire license terminates in reaction to any litigation, not just patent litigation. Hypothetically, a former employee suing Supabase for violation of workers' rights would not be allowed to use the software anymore.

But they have switched to Apache 2.0 now, so crisis averted.