Re:E-Paper Display Refresh Rate Reaches New Heights
by Modified3019 on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @06:36PM
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In the DIY electronics scene, I’ve occasionally come across posts about small cheap e-ink displays essentially burning in and how to try and avoid it (shifting things around like on OLED)
https://github.com/esphome/feature-requests/issues/1109#issu...
This could be actual burn in, or it could be a failure in how they are refreshing (with some potential fix if refreshed properly). I’m not familiar enough to be certain myself, but I personally suspect they are likely being driven too hard and are truly damaged.
In normal e-reader use I’ve never seen this as a practical issue.
Re:E-Paper Display Refresh Rate Reaches New Heights
by alex-a-soto on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @04:44PM
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I’d recommend watching the video below, where we talk about how fast refresh affects a panel’s lifespan.
https://www.youtube.com/live/okjJURIejIY?feature=shared&t=24...
Re:E-Paper Display Refresh Rate Reaches New Heights
by fdsfdsfdsaasd on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @11:13AM
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For dynamic content, a higher refresh rate absolutely will lower an eink panel's lifespan. As the refresh rate increases, more of the underlying content's changes will be captured and more pixels will change state.
Re:E-Paper Display Refresh Rate Reaches New Heights
by cyberax on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @07:23PM
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I have an e-ink display that's now 15 years old. It's definitely a bit less clean, there is sometimes mild ghosting even after doing a full refresh. Doing two refreshes in quick succession fixes that.
I also have another display that was exposed to full sunlight through a window for about 8 years. It's now a bit faded as a result.
All in all, I consider it pretty good.
Re:E-Paper Display Refresh Rate Reaches New Heights
by bebna on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @04:39PM
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Yes you can kill or degrade them if you drive them too hard, but achieving higher refresh rates and less ghosting is mostly about finer calibration and faster lookups on bigger tables
Re:E-Paper Display Refresh Rate Reaches New Heights
by mrheosuper on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @11:25PM
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Kind of, many e-ink device when using under sunlight lose their contrast overtime. The Fossil Eink watch is one of the example.
Re:E-Paper Display Refresh Rate Reaches New Heights
by fdsfdsfdsaasd on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @10:46AM
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That's a separate effect - eink degrades under UV. Fossil eink watches did not have enough UV filtering.
Re:E-Paper Display Refresh Rate Reaches New Heights
by fdsfdsfdsaasd on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @10:59AM
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Waveshare specify 1 million switches per eink dot for their panels.
https://files.waveshare.com/upload/4/4e/2.13inch_e-Paper_V4_...
https://files.waveshare.com/upload/6/60/7.5inch_e-Paper_V2_S...
Re:E-Paper Display Refresh Rate Reaches New Heights
by ThrowawayR2 on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @12:27PM
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1 million switches for a pixel is about 5.5 hours at 50 Hz, assuming the worst case of a state change on every frame. Surely it can't be that bad for larger panels? The existing e-ink monitors from Dasung and Onyx would have had problems by now.
Re:E-Paper Display Refresh Rate Reaches New Heights
by fdsfdsfdsaasd on Thursday September 11, 2025 @03:49AM
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I imagine most people are using those monitors for text-based applications, which have a much lower rate of pixel change. Still - the pixel switch lifetime is currently a limitiation of eink.
If so, won't high refresh rates degrade eink rapidly.