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Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by ACCount37 on Saturday September 06, 2025 @01:51PM (#45151399)
Tesla did, in fact, use "ground truth vehicles" - vehicles that were owned and operated by Tesla itself, and had high performance LIDARs installed. They were used to collect the data to train the "vision-only" system and verify its performance.

Reportedly, they no longer use this widely - but they still have some LIDAR-equipped "scout vehicles" they send into certain environments to collect extra data.

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Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by ethbr1 on Sunday September 07, 2025 @08:19AM (#45157537)
It seems like an own goal not to sell these to some interested and targeted customers then.
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Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by ACCount37 on Sunday September 07, 2025 @02:21PM (#45160811)
Who would buy those and why? They don't use LIDARs for better self-driving somehow. They're just data harvesting units with wheels. And I don't think there's a large and underserved market for LIDARs on wheels.
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Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by ethbr1 on Sunday September 07, 2025 @04:44PM (#45161957)
> Who would buy those and why? [...] They're just data harvesting units with wheels.

Tesla would subsidize them and offer them at the same price as non-LIDAR models, to select customers in target areas.

And yes, you answered the second part of your own question.

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