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Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by DennisP on Saturday September 06, 2025 @09:50AM (#45149257)
Huawei has a self-driving system that uses three lidars, which cost $250 each (plus vision, radar, and ultrasound). It appears to work about as well as FSD. Here's the Out of Spec guys riding around on it in China for an hour:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuDSz06BT2g

Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by mensetmanusman on Saturday September 06, 2025 @08:33PM (#45154201)
Huawei received over $1 billion in grants from the Chinese government in 2023.

Western countries might not be smart enough to keep R&D because Wall Street sees it as a cost center.

Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by DennisP on Sunday September 07, 2025 @01:20PM (#45160148)
Tesla spent about $10 billion on AI training hardware in 2024.[1] They just might not be getting as much bang for the buck, due to their paucity of sensors. Huawei get similar performance without Tesla's four billion miles of training data.

[1] https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...