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Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by bbarnett on Saturday September 06, 2025 @07:36AM (#45148382)
Well I wish this was true. But loads of DEVs on here will claim LLMs are infallible.

And the general public?! No way. Most are completely unaware of the foibles of LLMs.

Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by BoiledCabbage on Saturday September 06, 2025 @07:45AM (#45148436)
> Well I wish this was true. But loads of DEVs on here will claim LLMs are infallible.

No the don't. You're making a straw man rather than trying to put forth an actual argument in support of your view.

If you feel can't support your point, then don't try to make it.

Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by greenchair on Saturday September 06, 2025 @08:04AM (#45148546)
It's done in a roundabout way. Usually with a variation of "you had a bad experience because you are using the tool incorrectly, get good at prompting".
Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by Eisenstein on Saturday September 06, 2025 @10:28AM (#45149567)
That's a response to 'I don't get good results with LLMs and therefore conclude that getting good results with them is not possible'. I have never seen anyone claim that they make no mistakes if you prompt them correctly.
Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by bbarnett on Saturday September 06, 2025 @10:06AM (#45149365)
A straw man? An actual argument?

I responded to this parent comment:

"LLMs have shown the general public how AI can be plain wrong and shouldn't be trusted for everything."

You take issue with my response of:

"loads of DEVs on here will claim LLMs are infallible"

You're not really making sense. I'm not straw-manning anything, as I'm directly discussing the statement made. What exactly are you presuming I'm throwing a straw man over?

It's entirely valid to say "there are loads of supposed experts that don't see this point, and you're expecting the general public to?". That's clearly my statement.

You may disagree, but that doesn't make it a strawman. Nor does it make it a poorly phrased argument on my part.

Do pay better attention please. And your entire last sentence is way over the line. We're not on reddit.

Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by gellybeans on Saturday September 06, 2025 @12:04PM (#45150455)
This is just subjective spew.

The irony of telling someone not to be rude while being absolutely insufferable. Peak redditor behavior.

Please provide examples. Thank you!

Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by nickthegreek on Saturday September 06, 2025 @10:29AM (#45149576)
show us the infallible comments.
Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by Cornbilly on Saturday September 06, 2025 @11:29AM (#45150156)
HN posters know better but a lot of them won’t be honest because they want to protect their investments and/or their employer.
Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by jama211 on Saturday September 06, 2025 @02:15PM (#45151583)
No they don’t. Don’t lie.