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Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by zer00eyz on Friday September 05, 2025 @08:18PM (#45145266)
Waymo has been testing freeway driving for a bit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/waymo/comments/1gsv4d7/waymo_spotte...

> and uses remote operators to make decisions in unusual situations and when it gets stuck.

This is why its limited markets and areas of service: connectivity for this sort of thing matters. Your robotaxi crashing cause the human backup lost 5g connectivity is gonna be a real real bad look. NO one is talking about their intervention stats. IF they were good I would assume that someone would publish them for marketing reasons.

Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by decimalenough on Friday September 05, 2025 @08:44PM (#45145455)
> Your robotaxi crashing cause the human backup lost 5g connectivity is gonna be a real real bad look.

Waymo navigates autonomously 100% of the time. The human backup's role is limited to selecting the best option if the car has stopped due to an obstacle it's not sure how to navigate.

Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by refulgentis on Friday September 05, 2025 @08:25PM (#45145316)
> NO one is talking about their intervention stats.

Interventions are a term of art, i.e. it has a specific technical meaning in self-driving. A human taking timely action to prevent a bad outcome the system was creating, not taking action to get unstuck.

> IF they were good I would assume that someone would publish them for marketing reasons.

I think there's an interesting lens to look at it in: remote interventions are massively disruptive, the car goes into a specific mode and support calls in to check in with the passenger.

It's baked into UX judgement, it's not really something a specific number would shed more light on.

If there was a significant problem with this, it would be well-known given the scale they operate at now.