We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that

Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by treyd on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @06:41PM (#45110048)

See Mahmoud Khalil's case. They're trying to and would continue to have done so if they weren't blocked. What is there stopping them from changing the rules and doing it again?

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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by hax0ron3 on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @06:53PM (#45110157)

I disagree with what has been done in the Mahmoud Khalil matter. But it is a far distance between that on the one hand and what happens in places like Russia on the other.

I'm not trying to minimize the dangers of Trump. My point is that there is a huge difference in the level of authoritarianism between today's US and what I consider to be actual authoritarian countries. Today's US is one of the freest countries on the entire planet. We should keep it that way. I don't see what good it does to act as if today's US is anywhere close to actual authoritarian countries.

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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by treyd on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @07:31PM (#45110461)

Have you decided what your personal red line is after which you would conclude that we've entered an authoritarian regime? Have we crossed the neofascist Rubicon yet? [1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YFdwfNh5vs

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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by krapp on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @07:28PM (#45110441)

The distance is closing, it's already closer than many Americans would have considered possible. How close does it need to get before we should be concerned?

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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by Jensson on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @07:39PM (#45110530)

Is it really worse than McCarthyism era? I feel that time was much worse than currently.

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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by hax0ron3 on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @07:38PM (#45110526)

I'm already somewhat concerned. I've been concerned since long before Trump. And Trump has added some new concerns. For example, with that strike against the Venezualan boat today. But that doesn't mean that I believe that we're anywhere actually close to it. Those are two separate questions.

People really should try to understand that if someone says "I think that the US is vastly freer than Russia", it does not mean "I think that there is no reason for concern" or "I think that the US is going in a good direction".

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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by coldtea on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @06:16AM (#45114088)

Blacks were once slaves. Women couldn't vote. Japanese-Americans were put in camps. Worker strikes were met with guards killing people. Rousevelt had amassed all kinds of extra executive powers and control of all aspects of government that would seem over the top excessive before him.

Is today really "closer than many Americans would have considered possible"?

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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by chasd00 on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @10:24AM (#45116179)

> See Mahmoud Khalil's case

they fact that you know about this case at all and how much it has been in the news and the outrage and protest against the executive branch speaks volumes to the differences between the US and real authoritarian regimes.

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