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Re:To Smuggle More Drugs, Traffickers Go Under the Sea by berito on Monday September 10, 2012 @01:21PM (#4500876)
Working on this kind of hack sounds much more compelling than coding for an overhyped Internet startup.

To my mind, solving an impossible sounding challenge is larger than ethics.

Re:To Smuggle More Drugs, Traffickers Go Under the Sea by mc32 on Monday September 10, 2012 @04:33PM (#4502090)
Well, you could choose to work on the other side of it: discovery (detection) to allow interdiction. It's probably not an easy challenge, but it'd be legal and have quite a budget behind it, if you did find a viable (economical) solution.
Re:To Smuggle More Drugs, Traffickers Go Under the Sea by MartinCron on Monday September 10, 2012 @01:26PM (#4500898)
There are plenty of impossible-sounding challenges that don't require ethical breaches. May I suggest that you try to find one of those?
Re:To Smuggle More Drugs, Traffickers Go Under the Sea by noonespecial on Monday September 10, 2012 @02:12PM (#4501172)
Its only unethical if your country happens to be on the "war on drugs" bandwagon. People smuggle bibles into North Korea with great ingenuity. It's only unethical if you happen to be North Korean. Otherwise it's missionary work.
Re:To Smuggle More Drugs, Traffickers Go Under the Sea by mindcrime on Monday September 10, 2012 @02:02PM (#4501105)
What's the ethical breach in using technology to route around bad laws?
Re:To Smuggle More Drugs, Traffickers Go Under the Sea by lutusp on Monday September 10, 2012 @02:11PM (#4501162)
> What's the ethical breach in using technology to route around bad laws?

The fact that individuals decide on their own which are "bad laws", but without going to the trouble to defeat them in court. If a law is defeated in court, this remains a country of laws, not people. But if people decide on their own which laws to obey, it becomes thinly disguised anarchy.

That's all. No big deal.

Re:To Smuggle More Drugs, Traffickers Go Under the Sea by mindcrime on Monday September 10, 2012 @02:42PM (#4501366)
this remains a country of laws, not people

Yeah, that sounds pretty horrible to me. Personally, I like people a lot more than I like laws.

it becomes thinly disguised anarchy.

Works for me. But, I believe in the sovereignty of the individual, and attribute no particular special status to "government" and "laws", so maybe I'm coming at this from a different angle.

Re:To Smuggle More Drugs, Traffickers Go Under the Sea by lutusp on Monday September 10, 2012 @03:02PM (#4501513)
>> this remains a country of laws, not people

> Yeah, that sounds pretty horrible to me. Personally, I like people a lot more than I like laws.

You really missed the point of that aphorism -- it's meant to elevate shared values over individual values when dealing with other people. Imagine a community with ten members, nine of whom believe that stealing is wrong, one who believes stealing is right. Either the community becomes hostage to the one thief, or it makes a rule against stealing that everyone must obey. Obviously the second approach is best, and at that point the community becomes one ruled by laws, not people.

>> it becomes thinly disguised anarchy.

> Works for me. But, I believe in the sovereignty of the individual, and attribute no particular special status to "government" and "laws" ...

Yes. You're an anarchist. For me, the existence of governments and laws is the lesser of two evils. The alternative is no governments and laws, but the same number of people, i.e. the fascism of unchecked individuality.

Re:To Smuggle More Drugs, Traffickers Go Under the Sea by mindcrime on Monday September 10, 2012 @07:38PM (#4502904)
The fascism of unch.. oooohkaaay. Right. Gotcha. Sounds good, I'll be on the lookout for that. Thanks for the warning.
Re:To Smuggle More Drugs, Traffickers Go Under the Sea by MartinCron on Monday September 10, 2012 @03:00PM (#4501500)
I wasn't thinking about these particular laws, I was responding to the parent's comment about ethics being less interesting than hard problems.

I just think that "oh, this looks fun!" shouldn't always trump "is this the right thing to do?", that's all. You'll get no argument on the drug war from me.