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Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by alecsm on Friday August 22, 2025 @10:42AM (#44985272)
> The upcoming email hosting service from Thunderbird will support IMAP, SMTP and JMAP out of the box

Is there any email hosting out there with support for JMAP?

Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by PopAlongKid on Friday August 22, 2025 @11:10AM (#44985584)
I much prefer POP, as I only send and receive emails on my desktop computer and I want to decide when I fetch new emails. Is there any way to make IMAP work more like POP?
Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by Jaxan on Friday August 22, 2025 @11:20AM (#44985699)
Just disable any automatic fetching. IMAP is not pushing mails to you, but the client regularly pulls.
Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by homebrewer on Friday August 22, 2025 @01:15PM (#44987084)
fdm, imapsync, lots of similar alternatives. Synchronize email to your machine and then use any MUA, or even several of them, to read it from a local directory (Thunderbird also works AFAIK).

They can also remove email from the remote and keep just the local copy. Pretty much 1:1 with POP. I've been using this setup (with fdm) for probably more than a decade.

Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by newscracker on Friday August 22, 2025 @10:45AM (#44985301)
AFAIK, only Fastmail (which was the creator of JMAP).
Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by sevkih on Friday August 22, 2025 @10:55AM (#44985397)
Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by abound on Friday August 22, 2025 @10:58AM (#44985440)
Stalwart is a mail server program, not a live email server you can pay someone money to use.

One can of course use Stalwart to run a hosted email service.

Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by sevkih on Friday August 22, 2025 @11:24AM (#44985749)
https://stalw.art/managed-email/

> Let us handle the complexities of your email infrastructure with our comprehensive managed email server service.

Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by abound on Friday August 22, 2025 @11:56AM (#44986113)
That's fair! I didn't know they were offering that. I think it's a recent development -- it's not generally available ("contact us"), and it seems more focused at enterprise-type deployments than end-user mail that your typical Fastmail/Protonmail/etc.

But for the original question:

> Is there any email hosting out there with support for JMAP?

Stalwart really isn't a practical answer, at least yet.

Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by lb_ on Friday August 22, 2025 @11:06AM (#44985536)
Thundermail uses Stalwart
Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by alibrarydweller on Friday August 22, 2025 @10:43AM (#44985280)
Fastmail has had it for a while.
Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by TkTech on Friday August 22, 2025 @10:44AM (#44985296)
I'd hope so, they kinda made it :)
Re:Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update by sylens on Friday August 22, 2025 @04:54PM (#44989685)
I would hope this starts building momentum outside of Fastmail and maybe we see support added to clients like Apple Mail