Re:From GPT-4 to GPT-5: Measuring Progress in Medical Langua...
by sema4hacker on Thursday August 21, 2025 @10:08PM
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The latter. When "understand", "reason", "think", "feel", "believe", and any of a long list of similar words are in any title, it immediately makes me think the author already drank the kool aid.
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Re:From GPT-4 to GPT-5: Measuring Progress in Medical Langua...
by manveerc on Thursday August 21, 2025 @10:19PM
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In the context of coding agents, they do simulate “reasoning” when you feed them the output and it is able to correct itself.
Re:From GPT-4 to GPT-5: Measuring Progress in Medical Langua...
by qwertytyyuu on Thursday August 21, 2025 @10:20PM
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I agree with “feel” and “believe” but what words would you suggest instead of “understand” and “reason’?
Re:From GPT-4 to GPT-5: Measuring Progress in Medical Langua...
by sema4hacker on Thursday August 21, 2025 @10:43PM
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None. Don't anthropomorphize at all. Note that "understanding" has now been removed from the HN title but not the linked pdf.
Re:From GPT-4 to GPT-5: Measuring Progress in Medical Langua...
by platypii on Friday August 22, 2025 @12:08AM
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Why not? We are trying to evaluate AI's capabilities. It's OBVIOUS that we should compare it to our only prior example of intelligence -- humans. Saying we shouldn't compare or anthropomorphize machine is a ridiculous hill to die on.
Re:From GPT-4 to GPT-5: Measuring Progress in Medical Langua...
by sema4hacker on Saturday August 23, 2025 @12:09AM
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If you are comparing the performance of a computer program with the performance of a human, then using terms implying they both "understand" wrongly implies they work in the same human-like way, and that ends up misleading lots of people, especially those who have no idea (understanding!) how these models work. Great for marketing, though.
Re:From GPT-4 to GPT-5: Measuring Progress in Medical Langua...
by vexna on Friday August 22, 2025 @07:13AM
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kool aid or not -- "reasoning" is already part of the LLM verbiage (e.g `reasoning` models having `reasoningBudget`).
The meaning might not be 1:1 to human reasoning, but when the LLM shows its "reasoning" it does look _appear_ like a train of thought. If I had to give what it's doing a name (like I'm naming a function), I'd be hard pressed to not go with something like `reason`/`think`.