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Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by threeducks on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:35AM (#44974090)

    the median prompt [...] consumes 0.24 watt-hours of electricity
In layman's terms, that is (approximately)

- one second of running a toaster, or

- 1/80th of a phone charge,

- lifting 100 pounds to a height of 6 feet,

- muzzle energy of a 9mm bullet,

- driving 6 feet with a Tesla.

Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by 1gn15 on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:48AM (#44974255)
That's surprisingly energy efficient, for a technology that seemed like magic back in 2022.
Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by Capricorn2481 on Friday August 22, 2025 @10:22PM (#44992466)
How in the world do they claim to have 0.24Wh per query? MIT estimates the LLama 3.1 405B model uses 1.86Wh.

GPT-4 is over a trillion parameters. Is there any reason to think they have 2.5x more parameters but somehow use 6x less energy?

Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by logicprog on Saturday August 23, 2025 @07:43AM (#44995258)
Mixture of Experts. Llama 3.1 405B is a dense model, so to evaluate the next token, the context has to go through literally every parameter in its neural network. Whereas with mixture of experts, it's usually like a sixth to a tenth or even less of the neural network parameters that actually get evaluated for every token. Also, they don't use GPT-4 or 4.5 anymore iirc, which may have been dense (and that's why they were so expensive), 4.1 and 4o are much different models.
Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by myaccountonhn on Saturday August 23, 2025 @04:50AM (#44994453)
The median prompt being a google search, not agentic coding for example.

I also think this misses a bit the forest from the trees, emissions need to go down across all industries and tech is actively increasing theirs.