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Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by coldtea on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:12AM (#44973793)
>Even before the AI boom, shouldn't we have a bunch of extra capacity under construction, ready for EV driving, induction stoves and heat-pump heating?

When it comes to the EV, the answer is simple: the EV takeover "by 2030" was 100% wishful thinking - the capacity is nowhere near there, starting from scaling the battery production, never mind the charge capacity.

Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by bryanlarsen on Thursday August 21, 2025 @12:08PM (#44974464)
No, mostly misunderstanding. ~95% of all cars sold in Norway are EV, yet only ~25% of the cars on the road are EV's. Most cars predate the EV transition.

We'll have the battery capacity and charge capacity to allow 100% of cars sold in 2030 to be EV's. We only need 2 capacity doublings for batteries, and currently doublings happen every ~18 months. Charge capacity is even easier, we just need to increase electricity production by 1-2% per year for a couple decades to support the transition to EV's.

Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by coldtea on Friday August 22, 2025 @11:17AM (#44985663)
>No, mostly misunderstanding. ~95% of all cars sold in Norway are EV, yet only ~25% of the cars on the road are EV's

Norway is a tiny market which had big artificial tax/cost incentives to buy an EV. Norway could be 100% EV and it wouldn't make any dent to global adoption.

Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by bryanlarsen on Friday August 22, 2025 @12:33PM (#44986564)
Norway is a tiny market that is an example of what most Western nations will look like in 2030 or 2035. Despite ~95% of sales being EV, downtown Oslo is still noisy and stinky because the vast majority of cars are still ICE.

Contrast with China -- downtown Shanghai has the vast majority of cars being EV's despite the EV sales rate in China only being ~50%.

Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by lucketone on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:25AM (#44973969)
While it was never going happen.

Existence of “2030 deadline” was/ is significant factor by itself. (Current sate would be less electrified without that arbitrary and over optimistic fantasy deadline)

Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by unethical_ban on Thursday August 21, 2025 @02:41PM (#44976463)
That seems irrelevant to the question. If I took your prompt, my response would be "do you suggest we should run on thin margins of transmission capacity while we watch an explosion of demand coming at us?"
Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by dzhiurgis on Saturday August 23, 2025 @03:36AM (#44994073)
AFAIK there has been oversupply of batteries for last few years
Re:In a first, Google has released data on how much energy a... by coldtea on Saturday August 23, 2025 @05:29AM (#44994621)
If you forecast 100, build 20, and sell 10, you have oversupply for the caving in of demand, but huge lack of supply compared to the never-arriving extrapolated demand