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Re:Zedless: Zed fork focused on privacy and being local-first by hsn915 on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @10:13PM (#44968412)
I'm one of the people interested in Zed for the editor tech but disheartened with all the AI by default stuff.

opt-out is not enough, specially in a program where opt-out happens via text-only config files.

I can never know if I've correctly opted out of all the things I don't want.

Re:Zedless: Zed fork focused on privacy and being local-first by fastball on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @11:15PM (#44968702)
What interests you about Zed that is not already covered by Sublime?
Re:Zedless: Zed fork focused on privacy and being local-first by biztos on Thursday August 21, 2025 @12:52AM (#44969135)
For me, it's always interesting to try out new editors, and I've been a little frustrated with Sublime lately.

Upsides of Zed (for me, I think):

* Built-in AI vibecodery, which I think is going to be an unavoidable part of the job very soon.

* More IDE features while still being primarily an Editor.

* Extensions in Rust (if I'm gonna suffer, might as well learn some Rust).

* Open source.

Downsides vs Sublime:

* Missing some languages I use.

* Business model, arguably, because $42M in VC "is what it is."

Re:Zedless: Zed fork focused on privacy and being local-first by echelon on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @10:18PM (#44968434)
This is why we shouldn't open source things.

All of that hard work, intended to build a business, and nobody is happy.

Now there's a hard fork.

This is shitty.

Re:Zedless: Zed fork focused on privacy and being local-first by _benj on Thursday August 21, 2025 @03:44AM (#44970173)
I particularly agree with you.

Sublime is not open source and it has a very devout paying client base.

To me the dirty thing is to make something “open source” because developers absolutely love that, to then take an arguably “not open source” path of $42 mil in VC funding.

There’s something dissonant there.

Re:Zedless: Zed fork focused on privacy and being local-first by aurareturn on Thursday August 21, 2025 @07:13AM (#44971326)
I think it makes sense business wise.

Open source allows it to gain adoption in the dev community. Devs are notoriously hard to convince to adopt a new tool. Open source is one way to do it.

The path is usually to have an open community edition and then a cloud/enterprise edition. Over time, there will be greater and greater separation between the open source one and the paid ones. Eventually, the company will forget that the open source part even exists and slowly phase it out.

Re:Zedless: Zed fork focused on privacy and being local-first by hsn915 on Thursday August 21, 2025 @06:02AM (#44970927)
Open Source does not work for business. It just doesn't.

I intend to make my products source-available but not open source.

I do open source libraries/frameworks that I produce as part of producing the product, but not the product itself.