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Re:Why Your Startup Will Fail by pg on Sunday January 25, 2009 @04:41PM (#449580)
His mistake is not to distinguish between the average and the median case. Being an actor is an inefficient way to make money in both the average and median case. Starting a startup also doesn't pay in the median case, but it does a lot of better in the average case. In the average case it is probably the optimal way to make a lot of money. And if you are young enough to stand the risk, you can afford to care about the average case.

Startups and acting both have great variability, but acting also has demand working against it. Being an actor effectively pays you in other ways than money, because it's considered a cool thing to do. So demand pushes up the price in foregone income.

Re:Why Your Startup Will Fail by eru on Monday January 26, 2009 @11:01AM (#450538)
Last time I checked, startups were cool, too. Does that alter your argument?
Re:Why Your Startup Will Fail by pg on Monday January 26, 2009 @11:23AM (#450577)
Not cool like being an actor. Perhaps the reason startups seem cool to you is that you're thinking of famous consumer startups like Google or Facebook or Twitter. But the median startup does some boring infrastructure thing, like software for making online stores. You've never heard of the founders of these companies.

Even founders of consumer startups are way less cool per dollar than actors. I'd guess Larry & Sergey are about as famous to the general public as actors whose net worth is 1000x smaller.

Re:Why Your Startup Will Fail by rogercosseboom on Monday January 26, 2009 @02:21PM (#450849)
I think I've heard of the guy who wrote that software-for-making-online-stores stuff. Its Paul somethingorother...
Re:Why Your Startup Will Fail by eru on Monday January 26, 2009 @11:59AM (#450647)
I mixed up cool-to-hackers with cool-to-general-public.
Re:Why Your Startup Will Fail by giles_bowkett on Monday January 26, 2009 @11:54AM (#450641)
dammit OK this is the third comment. after this I'm closing the window. however that is a good strong argument.

actually, it appears to be a good strong argument. I can't say for sure. it's not totally clear to me as I don't know a damn thing about statistics and as far as I remember a median was a type of average. iirc median represents absolute middle; by average you probably mean mean average.

I really have no idea what you're saying, so I have no answer. unless you're making an argument for becoming a serial entrepreneur, since you'll probably have a startup which succeeds sooner or later, if you start young enough. that must be what you're saying, five fails in a row won't matter if number six is a win, and on average, it probably will be.

that's easy to shoot down, though. first of all you might need a lot more than six to beat the averages. second and more importantly: this post was a response to a specific person and that specific person is very probably still in college. I believe he has not created any startups yet. I could be wrong but I am very confident in this particular hunch. his next startup will very probably be his first, so the chance that it will fail remains very very high, since the averages are currently against him.

So no, I don't think that is my mistake at all. I think the mistake would be on the part of anybody attempting to over-generalize, from my specific answer to a specific person, to learn broader lessons for the startup and aspiring-startup communities. but I didn't post this here. that might have been a mistake, but it wasn't mine.

the specific person I'm responding to, OK - he can say "but my other startup might succeed." he'd have me there, maybe. but my reasons for believing his startup will fail, I think it's fair to assume that means his next startup, which will be his first, and could be his only. so yeah, my logic holds.

boo yah.

I appreciate having to work for that, though.