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Re:GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU ... by wuschel on Sunday August 17, 2025 @02:17AM (#44929328)
Who are the actors behind the ChatControl initiative?

I remember reading their names being blacked out.

Re:GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU ... by dariosalvi78 on Sunday August 17, 2025 @02:37AM (#44929428)
Danes and Swedes are in the forefront
Re:GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU ... by PeterStuer on Sunday August 17, 2025 @03:04AM (#44929523)
DSA was pushed by the very controversial Thierry Breton, former CEO of Atos, then European commisioner for the internal market, now on the advisory council of Bank of America.

Atos btw is the company that leads in receiving money to construct Europe's vittual security infrastructure.

But the proposal was ultimately supported by a substantial majority in parliament, led by the christians, socilaists. liberals and greens.

https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/139040

Re:GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU ... by sunshine-o on Sunday August 17, 2025 @07:48AM (#44930944)
> DSA was pushed by the very controversial Thierry Breton, former CEO of Atos

It's a clown show, that "French Big Tech company" Atos stock price went from 10000 to 40 euros in 25 years [0] and is now being sold into pieces because it has 5B debt [1] and is hopeless . I heard him talk once on youtube he is a total moron.

> Atos btw is the company that leads in receiving money to construct Europe's virtual security infrastructure.

Great if those type of people are in charge there is nothing to worry about. The only downside is the Internet might get slower in Europe.

At the end EU citizen might just be told to put the EU in CC of every messages you send, invited to every chat group, and tagged on every social media posts. If you don't you go to prison.

I mean during Covid the french gov mandated them to print and fill a new form every time they took their dog out to pee. So that is not far fetch.

- [0] https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ATO.PA/

- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atos#Financial_difficulties

Re:GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU ... by tucnak on Sunday August 17, 2025 @03:05AM (#44929535)
They say it's the Swedes, but that's not accurate. Thorn is a NSA-run charity that has been lobbying for this since 2012.
Re:GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU ... by vaylian on Sunday August 17, 2025 @04:25AM (#44929899)
Interesting. Do you have a source for the connection between the NSA and Thorn?
Re:GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU ... by tucnak on Sunday August 17, 2025 @07:12AM (#44930771)
Its board, as well as boards of the related orgs, is crawling with ex-State guys, even some CIA assets (most recently Fernando Ruiz Perez) etc. They're in bed with WeProtect (State Dept) as well as McCain Institute guys. The connection is not obvious, but see this as starting point https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the...

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/270...

What's telling is the fact that they never targeted the U.S. and U.S. policy-makers EVER, despite being mostly Washington guys with lended tech credibility of SF VC's.

Re:GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU ... by pqtyw on Monday August 18, 2025 @09:36AM (#44940428)
> They say it's the Swedes, but that's not accurate

Yes because its Denmark, other countries are mainly just tagging along. I mean we can and should blame lobbyists and such as well but 90% of the problem are the politicians and bureaucrats and the politicians listening to them.

Re:GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU ... by croes on Sunday August 17, 2025 @02:38AM (#44929432)
Re:GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU ... by lukan on Sunday August 17, 2025 @03:54AM (#44929752)
"As of July 2013, Thorn is in talks with leading internet companies (Facebook, Microsoft, Google, Twitter and at least three others) to collaborate on creating a database of millions of child abuse images on the web."

So if one messed up person likes that stuff, I guess they might aim towards working there?

Re:GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU ... by croes on Sunday August 17, 2025 @05:36AM (#44930223)
Wouldn‘t be the first time something like this happens
Re:GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU ... by thbb123 on Sunday August 17, 2025 @02:48AM (#44929466)
How comes US celebrities have to create their foundation in Sweden instead of the US?