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Re:The Timmy Trap by Applejinx on Friday August 15, 2025 @04:46PM (#44917075)
No, they're echoing previous examples of people planning, by framing prompts and recursively designed prompts to incorporate what, in fairness, is a large database including the text of people planning.

It still matters that there's nobody in there. You're figuring out better ways to tap into the history of language-users having represented planning in language. As such, this seems a brittle way to represent 'planning'.

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Re:The Timmy Trap by hackyhacky on Friday August 15, 2025 @07:44PM (#44918551)
> they're echoing previous examples of people planning

Isn't "echoing previous examples of X" the meaning of learning? If I learn, for example, calculus, or C++, or oil painting, aren't I just echoing pieces of math, code, or art that I've experienced elsewhere, but arranged into new patterns?

Can't we say that the LLM "learned" planning, just as we can say that a person learned planning? I fail to see the distinction between "echo of examples of plans" in an LLM is any less authentic than a human being making similar echos in their own plans.

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