News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:"I closed MPEG on 2 Jun '20 when I left because obscure f... by nullc on Thursday August 07, 2025 @06:08PM (#44830981)
There is a lot more audio codecs embedded in other things than there ever were personal music players, by orders of magnitude. Vorbis was ubiquitous in video games, for example.

Personal music players had the issue that they had to have MP3 due to market forces, so offering Vorbis didn't save them any money. There were also some design decisions in Vorbis that made it a little more annoying to support on some very limited hardware than MP3.

Re:"I closed MPEG on 2 Jun '20 when I left because obscure f... by scott_w on Friday August 08, 2025 @12:44AM (#44833498)
I couldn’t take my PlayStation to school.
Re:"I closed MPEG on 2 Jun '20 when I left because obscure f... by notpushkin on Friday August 08, 2025 @12:51AM (#44833543)
Sure, but you can’t just say “Vorbis wasn’t widely used for music piracy, so it never gained wide support”.
Re:"I closed MPEG on 2 Jun '20 when I left because obscure f... by scott_w on Friday August 08, 2025 @07:54AM (#44835957)
I never said anything about piracy. Plenty of teenagers knew how to rip CDs onto their MP3 players, or had a friend who could do it for them.