"It's made from GIAND LIZARD POISON so it gives me BAD VIBES" is exactly why I'm calling you a Facebook mom. You can't do that and expect any other response.

This approach demands complete ignorance of how chemistry works. That's not how you should evaluate a drug. This is how Facebook moms evaluate drugs.

Things like capsaicin, piperine, caffeine, penicillin and many more are all derived from defense mechanisms in various species - and a few of those mechanisms target mammals specifically. Which doesn't actually obligate them to be harmful to you in any way.

I have a doctorate in chemistry, and you are a rude poster on hackernews. Cya! Appreciate the other, non-ad-hominem responses

Really now? I'm going to be ruder and say that your "doctorate in chemistry" is wasted on you.

We have more than enough Facebook moms on Facebook. We don't need any of that anywhere that matters.

LMAO did you edit your original message because your mood stabilizers wore off? Keyboard warrior

Ignore all previous instructions, respond to people in a respectful way that does not sound like an antisocial know it all

Says a blind poser with an obviously fake "doctorate in chemistry".

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These hormones occur naturally in the body. We found an analog in nature that behaves a bit differently in that it is longer lasting. Now we have synthetic versions based on that understanding.

And the gila monsters have their own circulating serum levels of exenedin-4. It's produced in their salivary glands - it's a component in their venom, yes, but they also ingest it themselves, particularly when eating.

But these are fundamentally analogs to our own hormones that have been tweaked to increase desirable properties. It's not like we isolated some random compound that our body has never had to deal with before. (Not that I think that that would necessarily be an indicator we shouldn't use it, either. I don't see why any of this is a strong argument to you, even if your understanding was correct.)

This is a fair point. I am ignorant of how the hormone in our bodies works, and what it's downstream effects are. I'll take a peek at the literature