Re:No traffic deaths in Helsinki for a year
by dilyevsky on Saturday August 02, 2025 @06:03PM
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The real reason is Finnish absolutely draconian fines that scale up with income and really really strict enforcement. Make fines start with $500 and go to thousands and actually enforce them and not what SF is doing and we'll have the same but people over here don't like to hear it...
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Re:No traffic deaths in Helsinki for a year
by anilakar on Sunday August 03, 2025 @04:08AM
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The fines are not draconian. Those insane sums that end up in headlines are always from super rich folks bitching about how they should be allowed to speed because they're such net contributors.
Re:No traffic deaths in Helsinki for a year
by rwyinuse on Sunday August 03, 2025 @04:22AM
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I'm not sure about the enforcement part. In Finland we have one of the lowest amounts of policemen per capita, traffic police seriously lacks resources. Moderate speeding is pretty common due to that, despite the fines. Maybe it's better in Helsinki than other cities or the countryside, I don't know.
I regularly drive about 300km trips without seeing a single police car, only one static traffic camera on the way.
Re:No traffic deaths in Helsinki for a year
by dilyevsky on Sunday August 03, 2025 @02:38PM
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I’ve driven my fair share of kms around Finland and trust me - it’s way more strict than here even though we probably have much higher traffic cops per capita number on paper
How are the fines "draconian"? Everyone is fined the same when measured in time.
If someone making minimum wage ($7/hour) gets a 30 year sentence for murder, should Jeff Bezos ($1,000,000/hour) be able to get out of jail for the same offense after only 110 minutes?
If recklessly speeding costs the same as a cup of coffee, how is the fine supposed to act as a deterrent?
Re:No traffic deaths in Helsinki for a year
by dilyevsky on Sunday August 03, 2025 @02:36PM
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Arguing semantics here. Over here they fine you very little to relative average income. The fines in sf are exactly same as in the middle of nowhere because they are mostly set at state level