Re:The anti-abundance critique on housing is wrong
by gopher_space on Thursday July 31, 2025 @10:24PM
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Nobody concerned about rent price fixing thinks that we don't also need to build more housing here. This is just another part of the problem. Are you defending the practice?
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Re:The anti-abundance critique on housing is wrong
by Schiendelman on Thursday July 31, 2025 @10:30PM
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I think it simply doesn't matter. The only reason it could have any impact at all is in an incredibly constrained market. Unconstrain the market and they just won't be able to; it wouldn't work.
Also - I don't think it actually affects prices. It's just that they've gotten good at seeking price equilibrium.
Re:The anti-abundance critique on housing is wrong
by bugglebeetle on Thursday July 31, 2025 @11:37PM
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“Yes” would’ve been a sufficient answer.
Re:The anti-abundance critique on housing is wrong
by crooked-v on Friday August 01, 2025 @02:10AM
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And yet action gets taken about the rent price fixing, but not about actually encouraging more building.
Re:The anti-abundance critique on housing is wrong
by shazbotter on Friday August 01, 2025 @02:51AM
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Seattle upzoned huge chunks of the city, allowed ADUs (now two adus are permitted on all lots), and removed single family zoning. All within the past five years.
Last year, Seattle built 20% more houses than the highest of any of the previous ten years. (~13k units) And this year we're 11% above last year, so far.
What about that is not "actually encouraging more building"? I'd say your data might need revising.
Re:The anti-abundance critique on housing is wrong
by Schiendelman on Saturday August 02, 2025 @07:52PM
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It's honestly not that much. I know it looks good when comparing to recent years, but it doesn't look as good when you look at regional numbers (the city limits don't matter much in a housing market) - and the number of ADUs you can build in the entire city in a year is lower than some single new apartment buildings. We aren't keeping up with demand, much less drawing down the likely hundreds of thousands (seriously) of units we need to allow.
Re:The anti-abundance critique on housing is wrong
by shazbotter on Sunday August 03, 2025 @11:05AM
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That's a different goal post. Seattle is doing things to encourage building housing. Full stop. Which refutes the claim made.
Whether Seattle is building enough housing, or whether the region is doing enough to encourage housing development are separate claims.