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Re:A month using XMPP (using Snikket) for every call and cha... by zsiddique on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @06:36PM (#44729059)
You could even use an XMPP client with HipChat for your business chat. Though, I'd argue XMPP was one of the factors that contributed to HipChat's demise (it wasn't the sole reason, but trying to scale presence via XMPP proved to be a nightmare).
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Re:A month using XMPP (using Snikket) for every call and cha... by oofbey on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @07:39PM (#44729490)
Presence is the key problem. It scales badly - in terms of compute, bandwidth, and battery. And it's not actually useful. Lose lose. Solution: don't use XMPP.
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Re:A month using XMPP (using Snikket) for every call and cha... by opan on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @08:30PM (#44729821)
Matrix had similar problems and most servers just disable presence. Can XMPP not do this?
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Re:A month using XMPP (using Snikket) for every call and cha... by SoftTalker on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @11:10PM (#44730611)
Who GAF about presence. If the person answers, they're there.
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