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Re:Pony: An actor-model, capabilities-secure, high-performan... by fkyoureadthedoc on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @10:04AM (#44723530)
oof I'm pretty sure that's a fallacy, let me just consult the manual here...
Re:Pony: An actor-model, capabilities-secure, high-performan... by perching_aix on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @10:58AM (#44724226)
Keep us updated.
Re:Pony: An actor-model, capabilities-secure, high-performan... by jibal on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @06:11PM (#44728850)
Speaking of fallacies, it's complete nonsense (not the only example of it from that source) to say that the comment in question was a True Scotsman Fallacy (or any other kind of fallacy). Saying that a certain kind of Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge is very different from saying that no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
Re:Pony: An actor-model, capabilities-secure, high-performan... by perching_aix on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @06:46PM (#44729136)
Right, saying that only programmers who don't solve genuine problems and instead merely follow trends and treat it as fashion (and are thus no true scotsman) care about syntax, implying their opinion doesn't count, is definitely not a no true scotsman fallacy. It totally doesn't suggest that true scotsman heed the notion that syntax doesn't matter, and that so by definition, anyone else is just some goober following the cargo cult, so they don't count. [0] /s

And so no,

> Saying that a certain kind of Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge is very different from saying that no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.

I categorically disagree that these would be meaningfully distinct claims, as the "[only] a certain kind of Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge" bit specifically invokes the implicit disqualification of said Scotsman from being counted as a True Scotsman.

> not the only example of it from that source

Pretty ironic of you to say that.

[0] the literal definition of the no true scotsman fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Re:Pony: An actor-model, capabilities-secure, high-performan... by fkyoureadthedoc on Wednesday July 30, 2025 @03:15PM (#44738383)
Only a certain kind of Hacker News would make this reply
Re:Pony: An actor-model, capabilities-secure, high-performan... by jibal on Monday August 11, 2025 @08:19AM (#44863360)
And not a word of the response is correct ... it simply repeats errors in logic and fact and a complete failure to understand the salient features of a No True Scotsman fallacy (which is a denial that someone who is by definition a Scotsman is not a TRUE Scotsman ... a distinction that is purely pejorative with no actual semantic content; saying that a "certain sort" of Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge indicates disdain for such Scotsmen but is not any sort of fallacy), and throws in some snarky projection ... but my comments are devoid of irony.