I don't know whether you are being sincere or sarcastic, but either way this is not a productive mode of discourse. If sincere:

> Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

If sarcastic:

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

We don’t need to be so productive on easy problems. Identifying something is genocide is easy. The harder problem is confronting people with the cold hard fact of “hey this is genocide, don’t write long bullshit posts about this”. Then the convo veers, and before you know it, you’re discussing HN rules and shit.

One interesting excuse I hear about slavery in America was that that’s just how life was back then, people didn’t know better. This is not true, as we know for a fact abolitionist knew what right and wrong was during those times. Even if it was only a small percentage of people that knew morality, it’s enough proof that that no American alive at the time lacked the human capacity to perceive it.

This is still true today. We know what’s going on here morally, and as a collective whole (8 billion people), we are collectively responsible. The moral standard does not change. It was wrong to murder people 2000 years ago, it was wrong to enslave people 2000 years ago, and all of that is still wrong today. Honest people knew it then, and honest people know it today.

No bullshit, please. Right and wrong is never a morally nebulous problem, it’s just an utterly strict standard to adhere to. It never changes. It’s an understated reason why many have no fear of God or have abandoned the concept entirely, not just because there’s no proof, but because even if there was, what a fucking moral standard to live up to (quite hard for humanity since the beginning of time).