Return of wolves to Yellowstone has led to a surge in aspen trees

Re:Return of wolves to Yellowstone has led to a surge in asp... by bmacho on Sunday July 27, 2025 @10:03AM (#44701375)

  People:   "If God, then why bad?"[0]
  Leibniz:  "God and bad can coexist. E.g. we live in the best possible world."[1]
  Voltaire: "Here's a depiction of some fictional bad."

I don't think Voltaire engaged meaningfully with Leibniz's argument. (I think that Leibniz is simply right tho, in the mathematical sense, so there isn't much room for Voltaire anyway.)

[0] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil

[1] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_of_all_possible_worlds

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Re:Return of wolves to Yellowstone has led to a surge in asp... by chuckadams on Sunday July 27, 2025 @10:21AM (#44701512)

I suspect that "being right in the mathematical sense" is the very thing that Voltaire was lampooning.

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Re:Return of wolves to Yellowstone has led to a surge in asp... by sdenton4 on Sunday July 27, 2025 @12:25PM (#44702423)

Doesn't Leibniz's argument assume a single all-powerful god, and an external notion of good and evil? I would call it a 'not-even-wrong' argument - perhaps it's perfectly correct given its assumptions, but the assumptions aren't (necessarily) anything to do with this world...

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