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Re:Dwl: Dwm for Wayland by mort96 on Friday July 25, 2025 @01:10PM (#44685535)
And I encounter _serious_ issues when I use X. Neither is perfect, but this insistence that Wayland is "not ready" because it doesn't have certain people's pet features ignores the silent majority for whom it just works and works better than X ever did.

This is not me downplaying those issues some people encounter in Wayland. But I think you're sort of doing the opposite.

(And, Wayland is not a "product".)

Re:Dwl: Dwm for Wayland by rcxdude on Friday July 25, 2025 @01:37PM (#44685887)
Because wayland is 'ready' when X can be properly killed, i.e. wayland is working for essentially all users. As it stands a huge fraction of users have issues with it, because most users have at least one 'pet feature' which they are not willing to give up.
Re:Dwl: Dwm for Wayland by mort96 on Friday July 25, 2025 @01:48PM (#44686024)
As far as I'm concerned, a technology being "ready" (for mainstream adoption or whatever) means that it works better than or equally well as what it's replacing for most people and at least "well enough" for a significant majority. As far as I can tell, we've been there for a while with Wayland. The vast majority of people don't have to care that they're on Wayland.
Re:Dwl: Dwm for Wayland by lern_too_spel on Friday July 25, 2025 @05:30PM (#44688720)
X doesn't work for essentially all users. It works for substantially fewer users than Wayland does. There are several features that X is missing, and you might call them "pet features" but they are features that the vast majority of graphical desktop users expect these days.
Re:Dwl: Dwm for Wayland by hodgehog11 on Saturday July 26, 2025 @01:47PM (#44695797)
That's quite the claim; maybe you operate in different circles than I do, but most power users I know still avoid Wayland like the plague. X doesn't have support most of the modern fancy features, yes. But on older hardware, which people with less money usually have, X works.
Re:Dwl: Dwm for Wayland by lern_too_spel on Sunday July 27, 2025 @08:04PM (#44705868)
People with less money don't have old computers. They have Chromebooks, which use Wayland.
Re:Dwl: Dwm for Wayland by spauldo on Sunday July 27, 2025 @04:01AM (#44699636)
X still works great for me. I figure I'll give Wayland a try after another decade or so.