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Re:BYD Bets on Budget EV Boom with Atto 1 Debut in Indonesia by StopDisinfo910 on Thursday July 24, 2025 @08:32AM (#44669881)
> These days quality of the physical product is decent enough and the price of their different models are highly competitive in their respective segments. [...] The flaws in Teslas cars are mostly design choices

These two parts don't really go together from my point of view. Tesla is often pricing a car with mid-range quality as a premium model.

Personally, I think they are not very competitive anymore in the segments they operate in. They used to have first mover advantage but now historic manufacturers have similar cars on offer. At the entry level, in as much as they have a vehicle there, they are not competitive at all compared to the Asian manufacturers.

I am more worried about the plummeting sales than the AI investments.

Re:BYD Bets on Budget EV Boom with Atto 1 Debut in Indonesia by apelapan on Thursday July 24, 2025 @10:01AM (#44670807)
When I picked my Model Y the main competition was Kia EV6 and VW ID7. The monthly lease+insurance was $600 for Tesla, $850 for Kia and $1000 for VW.

To get down to Model Y-level costs, I would have had to settle for a barebones ID4 or an MG. In that comparison the Model Y is a wonder of pace, space and grace.

I don't like my Model Y, I sort of hate it, but if I had to make the choice again and the relative prices (and my car-needs) were the same, it would be a tight race. I'm pretty sure there will be better options next time, though.

Re:BYD Bets on Budget EV Boom with Atto 1 Debut in Indonesia by bigbadfeline on Thursday July 24, 2025 @02:13PM (#44674100)
> if I had to make the choice again

The choices are different now, Tesla is no longer a winner. That despite the tariffs, without which nobody would buy Teslas.