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Re:Taking GNOME to the Next Level by buster on Sunday September 02, 2012 @05:03AM (#4466600)
Using Gnome all day, nope not dead. Gnome Shell is quite a good environment. I think many people just complain because it's a change. People don't like change.
Re:Taking GNOME to the Next Level by klrr on Sunday September 02, 2012 @08:14AM (#4466842)
Totally agree with you, people who don't like what happening can just leave and start using MATE or XFCE instead. GNOME's directions isen't even targeted at the previous userbase anyway. I'm too young to have got into GNOME2 as much as it seems some people have done, but seriously it's just silly to complain and whine. I know some also includes very contructive critism in their complains but most people don't, and that is those I dislike.
Re:Taking GNOME to the Next Level by nuclear_eclipse on Sunday September 02, 2012 @08:27AM (#4466859)
As a long time user of Gnome 2.x, I welcome most of the changes made in Gnome Shell, haven't had any worthwhile complaints since the 3.4 release. It's cleaner, faster, has better window management features, and just gets out of the way better than Gnome 2.x ever did.
Re:Taking GNOME to the Next Level by snogglethorpe on Monday September 03, 2012 @04:47AM (#4469643)
Totally agree with you. I didn't like the gnome-shell when it first came out (slow, buggy as ...), but I like it now: it's very clean, does what I need with little effort, and stays out of the way otherwise.

I wish there were more themes around though ... it seemed like themes were plentiful and easily usable in Gnome 2 but they seem kinda thin on the ground with Gnome 3.

[I gather the WM in Gnome 3 is compatible with Gnome 2 themes, but GTK 3 cannot use GTK 2 themes ... or something. I dunno. The multitude of theme formats is confusing.]

Re:Taking GNOME to the Next Level by nuclear_eclipse on Tuesday September 04, 2012 @07:41PM (#4477107)
The real key is find Gtk themes that are compatible with both the Gtk2 and Gtk3 engines. Combine that with a good Gnome-Shell theme and a good font, and things actually look really nice.

I actually just found a couple new themes that are really great:

- Mediterranean Dark (Gtk+/Window themes): http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MediterraneanNight?co...

- Delorean Dark (Shell theme): http://killhellokitty.deviantart.com/art/DeLorean-Dark-0-94-...

Re:Taking GNOME to the Next Level by klrr on Sunday September 02, 2012 @08:37AM (#4466868)
Okey, that's cool. I have to look into gnome-shell some time.
Re:Taking GNOME to the Next Level by vacri on Sunday September 02, 2012 @11:30AM (#4467203)
GNOME's directions isen't even targeted at the previous userbase anyway

Yes, this is a criticism that has been levelled at them by devs who have left the project: they abandoned their former audience without having a clear idea of who their new audience is.

Re:Taking GNOME to the Next Level by snogglethorpe on Monday September 03, 2012 @04:50AM (#4469650)
To be fair, I think they never had a very clear idea of who their old audience was either ... :]

[I'm a Gnome user...]

Re:Taking GNOME to the Next Level by viseztrance on Sunday September 02, 2012 @07:44AM (#4466803)
Actually people complain because they need to install an extension to remove the accessibility icon from the top panel.
Re:Taking GNOME to the Next Level by buster on Sunday September 02, 2012 @08:00AM (#4466826)
No, they complain about the panel being ddifferent and the workspaces and stuff like that..
Re:Taking GNOME to the Next Level by sigzero on Sunday September 02, 2012 @08:50AM (#4466884)
You must be a Gnome Dev too! You aren't listening either.
Re:Taking GNOME to the Next Level by buster on Sunday September 02, 2012 @09:36AM (#4466981)
lol i'm no gnome dev but i read all that crap on HN since gnome-shell was released (and before unity), so yeah, i can read.

If people are too stubborn to try something new, they can still install fvwm95 and live in desktop-yesterday-land for the rest of their lives, no problem.