Re:OpenAI claims Gold-medal performance at IMO 2025
by Invictus0 on Saturday July 19, 2025 @09:08AM
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The "AI" that won Go was Monte Carlo tree search on a neural net "memory" of the outcome of millions of previous games; this is a LLM solving open ended problems. The tasks are hardly even comparable.
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Re:OpenAI claims Gold-medal performance at IMO 2025
by yobbo on Saturday July 19, 2025 @10:53AM
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A "reasoning LLM" might not be conceptually far from MCTS.
Re:OpenAI claims Gold-medal performance at IMO 2025
by gafferongames on Saturday July 19, 2025 @09:15AM
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And then they created AlphaGo Zero, which is not trained on any previous games, and it was even stronger!
https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/alphago-zero-starting-...
Re:OpenAI claims Gold-medal performance at IMO 2025
by yorwba on Saturday July 19, 2025 @06:20PM
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AlphaGo Zero was also trained on millions of games, they just weren't games played by human players.
Re:OpenAI claims Gold-medal performance at IMO 2025
by SonOfLilit on Saturday July 19, 2025 @06:40PM
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I really don't like the use of the word memory here, even in quotes. AlphaGo has a much better "understanding" of Go positions than mine (7k).
Re:OpenAI claims Gold-medal performance at IMO 2025
by Workaccount2 on Saturday July 19, 2025 @07:08PM
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Nothing that uses a mathematical model for solving a problem will ever reason because reasoning can only be done by things we don't understand...