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Re:AI CapEx Is Eating the Economy by oytis on Friday July 18, 2025 @05:57PM (#44610262)
It's very different from chess etc. If we could formalise and "solve" software engineering precisely, it would be really cool, and probably indeed just lift programming to a new level of abstraction.

I don't mind if software jobs move from writing software to verifying software either if it makes the whole process more efficient and the software becomes better as a result. Again, not what is happening here.

What is happening, at least in AI optimist CEO minds is "disruption". Drop the quality while cutting costs dramatically.

Re:AI CapEx Is Eating the Economy by charleshn on Friday July 18, 2025 @06:04PM (#44610298)
I mentioned algorithms, not software engineering, precisely for that reason.

But the next step is obviously increased formalism via formal methods, deterministic simulators etc, basically so that one could define an environment for a RL agent.

Re:AI CapEx Is Eating the Economy by puchatek on Friday July 18, 2025 @06:51PM (#44610657)
It's unlikely that LLMs are gonna get us there though. They ingested all relevant data at this point at the net effect might very well kill future sources of quality data. How is e.g. stackoverflow gonna stay alive if the next generation of programmers relies mainly on copilot and vibe coding? And what will the LLMs scrape once it's gone?
Re:AI CapEx Is Eating the Economy by bigyabai on Friday July 18, 2025 @06:17PM (#44610378)
I'll bet you $1,000*10^32 that AI never formalizes a novel FFT algorithm worth more than a dime.
Re:AI CapEx Is Eating the Economy by yeasku on Saturday July 19, 2025 @09:44PM (#44621173)
Open AI failed to create a bot that can play Dota. Llms cant learn complex heuristics.