I suggest you re-read my comment. Who said I was talking just paid work? I am talking about doing anything productive even if it is unpaid.

But you haven't offered any measurable definition of productive, so we have no means by which to self-measure whether we agree with you or not.

Please re-read my comment and come back when you can discuss things like an adult.

From reading your comments, it appears you value physical activity over sedentary activity and disagree with the disease model of addiction because of your own experience and belief system. Frankly, individualized belief systems that don’t exhibit generalizable or interrogatable attributes aren’t very interesting. You’re absolutely free to put up walls around your beliefs and experiences and tell us to keep out, but don’t be surprised when the intellectually curious start knocking on other doors.

making the rich richer in the name of wealth creation? What will we consume without that?